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Alex Wingrove

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Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #60 on: December 05, 2012, 06:33:13 pm »
Lee!

OK. 3-4 weeks, I think will be a bit optimistic for 19kg. You can do it however depends how hot you want the water. Luke warm 30deg at brush will prob last 3-4 weeks. However 50deg @ brush in winter will use alot of gas.

One thing I have found with the heaters is they can be a bit temperamental. Depending on if you plan on using one heater per pump or one heater for two pumps it will take alot of fiddling to get the setup just right.

I use quite a high flow rate but I still found myself needing a new low detetor that turns on the spark every time. However you may find you don’t need this at all.

The fittings you use will make or break you. Stay away from PVC hose from boiler to hose reel. It will swell up, and you will use more water and the pressure will burst the hose. If you can, use pluming fittings. I rigged mine up with John Guest fittings, copper pipe straight from the boiler, and then flex push fit connectors into the reel. You really need to invest in the equipment that can take the pressure and wont leak.

Also tell you guys to be prepared to tighten things up. O rings and jubilee clips that were adequate before will not be adequate when using hot.

Gardiners orange hose is an absolute must. It’s the best hose I have ever used, and I'm a serious user. My gear has to last and work properly. I only work 2-3 days a week so when I’m at work everything needs to go smoothly, so listen to my advice improve where you need to, but  I cannot stress enough test test test. Make sure everything is secure.

Any questions just ask.

Kind Regards

Alex

Panorama

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Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #61 on: December 05, 2012, 06:43:58 pm »
Any of the firemen on here that can tell us if there was an RTA involving a vehicle that clearly displayed that it was carrying compressed gas, if it would be approached differently to a regular vehicle which doesn't display any signs that it is carrying explosive gases on board?



Depends if they were people trapped, but at the end of the day the fire will need to be put out, example caravan , I've had plenty of them that didn't display warning stickers only to find a cylinder

Ste M

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Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #62 on: December 05, 2012, 06:45:01 pm »
Yes I'd agree on tighten everything, it is funny the first time it blows a fitting and you run back to the van as steam is pouring out due to the hot water

I love mine though. I did have one thermobore reel that was faulty bit Alex replaced it foc. Aviva ain't got an issue with me carrying gas and never even asked any questions as to what it's for or how it's secured, I lie mine down and it rolls slowly side to side  ;)

Panorama

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Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #63 on: December 05, 2012, 07:07:58 pm »
 I lie mine down and it rolls slowly side to side  


Err I would advise you to stand it up and secure it with a ratchet strap

Lee GLS

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Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #64 on: December 05, 2012, 07:10:05 pm »
I lie mine down and it rolls slowly side to side  


Err I would advise you to stand it up and secure it with a ratchet strap


"Err" he was joking.

Panorama

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Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #65 on: December 05, 2012, 07:12:22 pm »
Ye Lee , I've just re read it

Dave Willis

Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #66 on: December 05, 2012, 07:46:35 pm »
Alex's post is spot on. You need to adapt for hot water. I use car radiator hose from pump to reel, steel braided pipe from heater to pump and washing machine hose for the cold water supply. I also 'pull' my hot water so that the heater isn't under any pressure. Be ready to back down your controller shut off pressure too.

dd

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Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #67 on: December 06, 2012, 08:07:28 am »
Alex's post is spot on. You need to adapt for hot water. I use car radiator hose from pump to reel, steel braided pipe from heater to pump and washing machine hose for the cold water supply. I also 'pull' my hot water so that the heater isn't under any pressure. Be ready to back down your controller shut off pressure too.
You want the pump before the heater. Running hot water through your pump will shorten its life.

concept

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Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #68 on: December 06, 2012, 08:39:54 am »
Alex's post is spot on. You need to adapt for hot water. I use car radiator hose from pump to reel, steel braided pipe from heater to pump and washing machine hose for the cold water supply. I also 'pull' my hot water so that the heater isn't under any pressure. Be ready to back down your controller shut off pressure too.

When we had LPG one, it was a nightmare! blowing hoses, popping connections, just a pain in the rear!

With the amount of £ I will be spending with PF, it has to be right from day 1, from thermobore hose, down to interlinking hoses, I expect NO issues whatsoever with leaks, burst hose etc.


dd

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Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #69 on: December 06, 2012, 08:58:26 am »
Alex's post is spot on. You need to adapt for hot water. I use car radiator hose from pump to reel, steel braided pipe from heater to pump and washing machine hose for the cold water supply. I also 'pull' my hot water so that the heater isn't under any pressure. Be ready to back down your controller shut off pressure too.

When we had LPG one, it was a nightmare! blowing hoses, popping connections, just a pain in the rear!

With the amount of £ I will be spending with PF, it has to be right from day 1, from thermobore hose, down to interlinking hoses, I expect NO issues whatsoever with leaks, burst hose etc.


As long as it is the Isothermal 2 you should be OK as IMO the Isothermal 1 is a waste of money.

Make sure that they fit 2 110 amp batteries solely to power the unit though. Personally I feel they ripped me off because my heater is all but useless.

Dave Willis

Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #70 on: December 06, 2012, 01:45:50 pm »
Alex's post is spot on. You need to adapt for hot water. I use car radiator hose from pump to reel, steel braided pipe from heater to pump and washing machine hose for the cold water supply. I also 'pull' my hot water so that the heater isn't under any pressure. Be ready to back down your controller shut off pressure too.
You want the pump before the heater. Running hot water through your pump will shorten its life.

Possibly, but it stopped the heater blowing it's pressure valve.

Window Washers

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Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #71 on: December 06, 2012, 01:48:17 pm »
Alex's post is spot on. You need to adapt for hot water. I use car radiator hose from pump to reel, steel braided pipe from heater to pump and washing machine hose for the cold water supply. I also 'pull' my hot water so that the heater isn't under any pressure. Be ready to back down your controller shut off pressure too.
You want the pump before the heater. Running hot water through your pump will shorten its life.

Possibly, but it stopped the heater blowing it's pressure valve.
what heater is this ?
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

Dave Willis

Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #72 on: December 06, 2012, 04:39:40 pm »
Fogwash. Ian, why do you have a gay avatar?

keyser soze

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Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #73 on: December 06, 2012, 09:18:41 pm »
Fogwash. Ian, why do you have a gay avatar?



 ;D ;D

Window Washers

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Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options New
« Reply #74 on: December 06, 2012, 09:57:36 pm »
Fogwash. Ian, why do you have a gay avatar?
cheers , I wanted a change
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)