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WGB

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Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2012, 03:17:21 pm »
going to do  a detailed video of this and our leaflet campaign results for the year in the next week or so
look forward to seeing that doing leaflets myself at the min :)

Lee Pryor

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Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #41 on: December 05, 2012, 03:45:00 pm »
The best way to predict the future is to create it.

Lee Pryor

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Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2012, 03:48:29 pm »
dont know about insurance yet. Im with alexander swan. If they have a problem they will simply loose my business.
The best way to predict the future is to create it.

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Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #43 on: December 05, 2012, 03:59:37 pm »
dont know about insurance yet. Im with alexander swan. If they have a problem they will simply loose my business.

Good luck is all I will say.

I guess most people take the chance and don't actually get the LPG cylinder declared on their policy, and that's their choice.


Dave Willis

Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #44 on: December 05, 2012, 04:08:40 pm »


My flue

Dave Willis

Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #45 on: December 05, 2012, 04:11:40 pm »


Up through the roof

Dave Willis

Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #46 on: December 05, 2012, 04:15:50 pm »
Have to mention I saw something really shocking today. It was an lpg gas heater in a suppliers heating the room. Do you know how dangerous that is? I ran out screaming - I mean that cylinder was only about two inches away from the flame - we could have died! Lots of old people might explode in their homes.

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Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #47 on: December 05, 2012, 04:19:38 pm »
Have to mention I saw something really shocking today. It was an lpg gas heater in a suppliers heating the room. Do you know how dangerous that is? I ran out screaming - I mean that cylinder was only about two inches away from the flame - we could have died! Lots of old people might explode in their homes.

Some things H+S wise are ridiculous, however, some H+S measures are not.

Your choice to the risks you want to take, insured or uninsured.

We have an LPG system fitted in one of our vans, but it's not in use, as nobody would insure it.

Not worth the risk, in my opinion, as all it takes is a claim for an accident or whatever, and the assesor can cancel your policy there and then, and you've lost everything.

Dave Willis

Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #48 on: December 05, 2012, 04:22:57 pm »
I had a crash and a claim this year and nothing was mentioned. (and I didn't explode).

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Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #49 on: December 05, 2012, 04:24:01 pm »
So are you insured for transporting the LPG canister?

Dave Willis

Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #50 on: December 05, 2012, 04:28:54 pm »
As I said before I phoned the insurance company and they weren't bothered. Do you think any tradesperson that carries a cylinder will be uninsured? How do motorhomes get insured? Is your car insured when you pick up a refill for the barby?
What if you drive abroad camping and take a stove with you?

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Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #51 on: December 05, 2012, 04:33:23 pm »
Motorhomes have purpose built cabinets which can be accessed separately to the load areas of the vehicle.

They also are required to carry hazard stickers.

They are also required to close the canister when its not being used, which I can assume all L5/hotwash etc users do between jobs.

Any of the firemen on here that can tell us if there was an RTA involving a vehicle that clearly displayed that it was carrying compressed gas, if it would be approached differently to a regular vehicle which doesn't display any signs that it is carrying explosive gases on board?

Dave Willis

Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #52 on: December 05, 2012, 04:37:04 pm »
I have an lpg sticker on the van, turn the gas off whilst driving. Motorhomes might have the gas in a cabinet because people are sleeping on board maybe?

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Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #53 on: December 05, 2012, 04:41:50 pm »
Could be that, but snack wagons also require them in a separate unit.

When we had ours fitted I looked into it all, can't remember all the details.

I just find it all a bit scary that people are running the gauntlet with this kind of thing, but thats just me.


Dave Willis

Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #54 on: December 05, 2012, 04:46:56 pm »
Don't suppose you carry ten gallons of petrol slung underneath your car?

I was wary, but I haven't found anything online that tells me I can't carry a bottle. If you find something then post it here and we can decide what to do.

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Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #55 on: December 05, 2012, 04:52:05 pm »
Don't suppose you carry ten gallons of petrol slung underneath your car?

I was wary, but I haven't found anything online that tells me I can't carry a bottle. If you find something then post it here and we can decide what to do.

I'm guessing, if involved in an accident where a petrol tank is punctured (plastic), there is less chance of a spark, where as a metal canister with compressed LPG, its a different kettle of fish altogether.

Some things you have to can make a calculated risk on, this just wasn't for me, especially where staff are concerned, it simply wasn't worth it.


Dave Willis

Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #56 on: December 05, 2012, 04:56:19 pm »
To be honest if the accident was bad enough to puncture a gas cylinder then I reckon the driver would be jam anyway.

JackieW

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Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #57 on: December 05, 2012, 05:08:13 pm »
Lee Pryor, ''going to do  a detailed video of this and our leaflet campaign results for the year in the next week or so''

Been interested since you first started the campaign earlier in the year, thanks.

Lee GLS

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Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #58 on: December 05, 2012, 05:54:04 pm »
dont know about insurance yet. Im with alexander swan. If they have a problem they will simply loose my business.

They didn't have a problem when I called about my heater

Lee GLS

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Re: Hot water - Gas vs Diesel options
« Reply #59 on: December 05, 2012, 05:59:15 pm »
 
Don't suppose you carry ten gallons of petrol slung underneath your car?

I was wary, but I haven't found anything online that tells me I can't carry a bottle. If you find something then post it here and we can decide what to do.

I'm guessing, if involved in an accident where a petrol tank is punctured (plastic), there is less chance of a spark, where as a metal canister with compressed LPG, its a different kettle of fish altogether.

Some things you have to can make a calculated risk on, this just wasn't for me, especially where staff are concerned, it simply wasn't worth it.



So how do cars converted to LPG that have a tank in the boot, not in a cage/cabinet, get insured? It's not that big a deal.