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keyser soze

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year 1 complete
« on: December 02, 2012, 04:36:54 pm »
been at window cleaning a year now . its been an interesting year. ups and downs but keeping busy ish .. ive noticed that iv'e had a few ''can you leave till march''  ... i can understand this really because i clean some windows and think they aren't dirty... any thoughts ???

CLEANCARE WC

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Re: year 1 complete
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2012, 04:42:31 pm »
been at window cleaning a year now . its been an interesting year. ups and downs but keeping busy ish .. ive noticed that iv'e had a few ''can you leave till march''  ... i can understand this really because i clean some windows and think they aren't dirty... any thoughts ???

YOU TRAD THEN?
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Total shine cleaning services

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Re: year 1 complete
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2012, 04:43:20 pm »
I think if u allow it they will do it evey year, I have said no to a few and told them I only offer one or two monthly cleans, did lose some and some stayed.

graham

ben M

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Re: year 1 complete
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2012, 04:51:38 pm »
I always say sorry but i have to clean your windows all year round because i still have to feed my kids even in winter!  ;D ;D  never lost a customer  ;)

keyser soze

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Re: year 1 complete
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2012, 04:54:46 pm »
been at window cleaning a year now . its been an interesting year. ups and downs but keeping busy ish .. ive noticed that iv'e had a few ''can you leave till march''  ... i can understand this really because i clean some windows and think they aren't dirty... any thoughts ???

YOU TRAD THEN?


i do both mate ... in the summer i see the need but this time of year iv'e found windows easier to clean .. mainly cause not the birds and bugs about

keyser soze

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Re: year 1 complete
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2012, 04:57:47 pm »
I always say sorry but i have to clean your windows all year round because i still have to feed my kids even in winter!  ;D ;D  never lost a customer  ;)



should i say good bye to these types of customer .. i thought about it but so far iv'e been ok with it... not been that  bothered

ben M

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Re: year 1 complete
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2012, 05:04:51 pm »
I always say sorry but i have to clean your windows all year round because i still have to feed my kids even in winter!  ;D ;D  never lost a customer  ;)



should i say good bye to these types of customer .. i thought about it but so far iv'e been ok with it... not been that  bothered
it is up to you. I you've been ok, keep them then  ;)

wightsurf

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Re: year 1 complete
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2012, 05:32:26 pm »
Tell them sure you can leave it But march clean will be higher price due to tim3 not cleaned. That's what I do,either way I make money.

keyser soze

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Re: year 1 complete
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2012, 05:37:08 pm »
Tell them sure you can leave it But march clean will be higher price due to tim3 not cleaned. That's what I do,either way I make money.


tbh i thought this would be a good way of increasing their price ... when i go back..if they do it again next year i'll do the same

shina

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Re: year 1 complete
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2012, 06:40:00 pm »
been at window cleaning a year now . its been an interesting year. ups and downs but keeping busy ish .. ive noticed that iv'e had a few ''can you leave till march''  ... i can understand this really because i clean some windows and think they aren't dirty... any thoughts ???
do you clean every 4 weeks?
i moved over to 6 weeks and now no probs

PoleKing

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Re: year 1 complete
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2012, 06:58:29 pm »
I have a few that say that. Doesn't bother me. Be nice to have them year round but it's not gonna make the bailiffs come round.

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www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

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keyser soze

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Re: year 1 complete
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2012, 07:06:56 pm »
been at window cleaning a year now . its been an interesting year. ups and downs but keeping busy ish .. ive noticed that iv'e had a few ''can you leave till march''  ... i can understand this really because i clean some windows and think they aren't dirty... any thoughts ???
do you clean every 4 weeks?
i moved over to 6 weeks and now no probs


thought about it.. tends to be the more expensive ones ..like darren lane said its not a major issue..(yet)

bobplum

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Re: year 1 complete
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2012, 10:34:39 pm »
depends how you want to run your business or how you want the customers to run it ???

ben M

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Re: year 1 complete
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2012, 10:47:48 pm »
depends how you want to run your business or how you want the customers to run it ???
+1

Tom White

Re: year 1 complete
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2012, 11:30:17 pm »
I never bother going back to the ones who say "Can you leave it till Spring?", but I always tell them that when they ask, politely.  I just say "Sorry, but I only keep customers who want their windows cleaned at the frequency we originally agreed".

I mean if I quoted for a customer in July and then they started saying, "But I don't want them cleaned in Winter", I'd assume (rightly or wrongly) that they're going to be a pain and decline the work.  But I'm fairly busy with work, if you're not, maybe you should keep them on till you've enough to drop this type of customer.

Mike #1

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Re: year 1 complete
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2012, 05:55:51 am »
been at window cleaning a year now . its been an interesting year. ups and downs but keeping busy ish .. ive noticed that iv'e had a few ''can you leave till march''  ... i can understand this really because i clean some windows and think they aren't dirty... any thoughts ???
do you clean every 4 weeks?
i moved over to 6 weeks and now no probs


thought about it.. tends to be the more expensive ones ..like darren lane said its not a major issue..(yet)

Personally do what you thinks best , but you have to consider how much money you are losing and the fact that the custy is in control of you from their perspective .

I had 1 custy who would ask me to leave till the new year always about this time of the year the house was only a £4 house 2-3 yrs ago now , I let her do it twice and the day she asked me in the street and asked me to start cleaning her windows again and would make her wait another 4wks as her windows were filthy . Mike

Re: year 1 complete
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2012, 06:56:52 am »
I have been cleaning windows for three years and believe me the more rope you give the more flack you get later. I have cut some slack lately due to my injury and they just push your boundaries.I think you really need to have a policy and stick to what allow and not.There is no respect for our industry.

Window Washers

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Re: year 1 complete
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2012, 07:35:39 am »
Tell them sure you can leave it But march clean will be higher price due to tim3 not cleaned. That's what I do,either way I make money.
spot on
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

dazmond

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Re: year 1 complete
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2012, 08:17:41 am »
all year round or not at all for me.windows DO still get dirty in winter and my bills keep coming so any customers who say "leave til spring" dont get done again.

i find most customers keep me on all year round when they realise its my livelyhood and not "beer money"!! ;D ;D ;D
price higher/work harder!

Carl2009

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Re: year 1 complete
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2012, 08:20:53 am »
"the fact that the custy is in control of you from their perspective"

and Tosh's

"I only keep customers who want their windows cleaned at the frequency we originally agreed"

Personally I would be uneasy if I had a manager running my business and they were taking this approach.

I advertise cleans at a frequency to suit the customer, from one-offs right down to 2-weekly cleans.
I have structured the business such that I have several days off a month for bad weather and for the fact that I will lose X amount per year and some will drop off or reduce their frequency in the winter months. So far this year i've lost quite a few custies to the Grim Reaper, but have taken on more than i've lost on, so my projected turnover is the highest its ever been. I've lost one to "leave it till March" and a couple have gone from 4 weekly to 2 monthly. My business can cope with this quite easily.

If we have -20 for more than a few days, or lots of snow, or I get injured/ill that will be much more difficult to deal with financially.

As i've said before I see myself not so much as a window cleaner but in the customer service business - the customer is all important. I'm not saying sit back and let them sh*t on you, but deal with them as you'd want to be dealt with and you can't go wrong. I know i've said it before but I canvassed for 3 months in April 09 and have spent a tenner on advertising (parish mag for a year = 1 new custie). My stats show I've had 3 times as many people join me as a customer by word of mouth referral and being approached whilst working than I have by canvassing. If people are recommending you then you are doing it right. They are going to do that if you get "funny" with them (and i've had my fair share believe me).

I personally don't feel its fair (and am pretty sure it would fail the reasonableness test in a court) that a customer or service provider can't change the terms of the contract with reasonable notice. I always ask what frequency a customer wants and let them tell me. I can then price accordingly. In almost all circumstances I charge the same for an 8 weekly clean as a 4 weekly clean. If they then want to change frequency then i'm covered if its from 4 to 8. If they want to leave it over the winter in most cases its no then no problem - i'd lose, say £15 x 5 cleans = £75 at a time of the year when there is usually such poor weather and the days are so short it can be hard to get round - no big deal. If its a property that's gonna be filthy, then I tell them the first clean in March will be more.
As I say, i've only been going 3 1/2 years, but if i've lost more than 5 to this i'd be surprised.

People on here jump up and down wondering the best way to get new business, but it's easier to retain existing custies than to get a new one - you just have to structure your business correctly. You can then cope with the odd few winter drop offs.