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Poll

do you use one or all of these for your business ?

Facebook
Twitter
Youtube
All of the above
2 of them
none of them
thinking about it

Window Washers

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Re: Social Media <<<<-----Question for everyone
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2012, 10:52:02 pm »
Hoping more people at very least vote on the poll to give a better overview
100 is the aim so getting there :)

Keep your comments coming I will try to make it worth everyone's effort
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

gewindows

Re: Social Media <<<<-----Question for everyone
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2012, 11:23:32 pm »
We've had this conversation on here before, I still subscribe to the same opinion I had about then. People do not go on Facebook to look for a window-cleaner.

Your friend on FB might be the friend of a window-cleaner who is also on FB, but the chances are that he is either in a different country, as thats the nature of the internet, or simply far too many miles away for it to be considered. If I wanted a chippy or a sparky I'd look in our local village mag or use an online directory or ask someone I knew who had used one,which is what I did about a month ago when we needed the use of a plasterer. I did not look on FB and the thought of it didn't occur to me, for one second.

I know you said about a year or more ago Ian that FB was the next big marketing 'thing'. Sorry chap, but it isn't.

Saying that I do have an FB page for my business, I doubt Ive had ANY work from it. In fact Id bet my house on it that I havent; takes too much effort anyway. There was someone on here a few months back used to post on his websites blog about his day at work. That lasted about 2 weeks. Haven't got the time, too busy working.

Re: Social Media <<<<-----Question for everyone
« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2012, 11:28:57 pm »
All the time keep an eye on my local trade club group, over 9,000 members on there. Anyone asks for a window cleaner and I get linked to them by someone. Great for feedback too.

Re: Social Media <<<<-----Question for everyone
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2012, 11:32:13 pm »
And Twitter for simply getting the subliminal message out there. We also have a great tackle shop owner down here who tweets the weather, he is very accurate.

Mike #1

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Re: Social Media <<<<-----Question for everyone
« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2012, 05:33:51 am »
IT IS THE DEVILS WORK  why would anybody want to connect with total strangers.

Just dont see it working for a business what the hell would you put on the page,

 Monday cleaned windows today nice and sunny .

Tuesday cleaned windows today bit rainy.

And get them really worked up for a friday and post some pics of window cleaning people will be going crazy .

I just dont see the benefit to be honest posting an add which will show up on peoples Facebook page which is within your postcode area that may work . Mike 

Window Washers

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Re: Social Media <<<<-----Question for everyone
« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2012, 10:04:52 am »
We've had this conversation on here before, I still subscribe to the same opinion I had about then. People do not go on Facebook to look for a window-cleaner.

Your friend on FB might be the friend of a window-cleaner who is also on FB, but the chances are that he is either in a different country, as thats the nature of the internet, or simply far too many miles away for it to be considered. If I wanted a chippy or a sparky I'd look in our local village mag or use an online directory or ask someone I knew who had used one,which is what I did about a month ago when we needed the use of a plasterer. I did not look on FB and the thought of it didn't occur to me, for one second.

I know you said about a year or more ago Ian that FB was the next big marketing 'thing'. Sorry chap, but it isn't.

Saying that I do have an FB page for my business, I doubt Ive had ANY work from it. In fact Id bet my house on it that I havent; takes too much effort anyway. There was someone on here a few months back used to post on his websites blog about his day at work. That lasted about 2 weeks. Haven't got the time, too busy working.
We all have a different view on things and yours is a very valid one, cheers for posting your thoughts.

Anyone else what to share thier thoughts on this ?

if not at least could you at least vote on the poll please  :)
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

C o z y

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Re: Social Media <<<<-----Question for everyone
« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2012, 10:19:51 am »
We've had this conversation on here before, I still subscribe to the same opinion I had about then. People do not go on Facebook to look for a window-cleaner.

Your friend on FB might be the friend of a window-cleaner who is also on FB, but the chances are that he is either in a different country, as thats the nature of the internet, or simply far too many miles away for it to be considered. If I wanted a chippy or a sparky I'd look in our local village mag or use an online directory or ask someone I knew who had used one,which is what I did about a month ago when we needed the use of a plasterer. I did not look on FB and the thought of it didn't occur to me, for one second.

I know you said about a year or more ago Ian that FB was the next big marketing 'thing'. Sorry chap, but it isn't.

Saying that I do have an FB page for my business, I doubt Ive had ANY work from it. In fact Id bet my house on it that I havent; takes too much effort anyway. There was someone on here a few months back used to post on his websites blog about his day at work. That lasted about 2 weeks. Haven't got the time, too busy working.

I used to think that about Facebook. About 2 years ago, a custy opened a page for us and explained the benefits. I was sceptic, but did a few things she advised. I posted on local selling sites and clubs or interest pages and it went balistic. The most successful page we had was for carpet & upholstery cleaning. We would get about 1000 quids worth of work from that page per month! The window cleaning face book page was set up to PM custies about access or payment etc etc. We hardly use them now as the window cleaning page is mostly PM's to get payment and access but I no longer use it to advertise as we aren't really looking for more customers at the moment.
The carpet & upholstery cleaning page is also very slow now as we've branched off into the local German market as this is more lucrative than the M.O.D. customers we have over here.

We also opened a German Facebook page to help get a better Google ranking, it was up to about 1400 likes within the first year. We get work from that too.

Have a look if you want, no need to like them, as this will bring nothing for either party.
Window page http://www.facebook.com/BFG.Window.Cleaner?v=wall

carpet page for M.O.D. custies (Brits)
http://www.facebook.com/groups/BFG.Carpet.Cleaner/

Lastly, our Gurmun page that we only PM customers on.
http://www.facebook.com/Powell.Herford?ref=hl

I've no interest in twitter and I found the Facebook system was a great idea for us at that time, but now we no longer need it. Worth a try though if you want. We'd always post on club / interest and selling sites telling people who we are and what we do, and how to contact us.

Hope this helped.
No still don't understand, I must be thick

Window Washers

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Re: Social Media <<<<-----Question for everyone
« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2012, 10:33:37 am »
We've had this conversation on here before, I still subscribe to the same opinion I had about then. People do not go on Facebook to look for a window-cleaner.

Your friend on FB might be the friend of a window-cleaner who is also on FB, but the chances are that he is either in a different country, as thats the nature of the internet, or simply far too many miles away for it to be considered. If I wanted a chippy or a sparky I'd look in our local village mag or use an online directory or ask someone I knew who had used one,which is what I did about a month ago when we needed the use of a plasterer. I did not look on FB and the thought of it didn't occur to me, for one second.

I know you said about a year or more ago Ian that FB was the next big marketing 'thing'. Sorry chap, but it isn't.

Saying that I do have an FB page for my business, I doubt Ive had ANY work from it. In fact Id bet my house on it that I havent; takes too much effort anyway. There was someone on here a few months back used to post on his websites blog about his day at work. That lasted about 2 weeks. Haven't got the time, too busy working.

I used to think that about Facebook. About 2 years ago, a custy opened a page for us and explained the benefits. I was sceptic, but did a few things she advised. I posted on local selling sites and clubs or interest pages and it went balistic. The most successful page we had was for carpet & upholstery cleaning. We would get about 1000 quids worth of work from that page per month! The window cleaning face book page was set up to PM custies about access or payment etc etc. We hardly use them now as the window cleaning page is mostly PM's to get payment and access but I no longer use it to advertise as we aren't really looking for more customers at the moment.
The carpet & upholstery cleaning page is also very slow now as we've branched off into the local German market as this is more lucrative than the M.O.D. customers we have over here.

We also opened a German Facebook page to help get a better Google ranking, it was up to about 1400 likes within the first year. We get work from that too.

Have a look if you want, no need to like them, as this will bring nothing for either party.
Window page http://www.facebook.com/BFG.Window.Cleaner?v=wall

carpet page for M.O.D. custies (Brits)
http://www.facebook.com/groups/BFG.Carpet.Cleaner/

Lastly, our Gurmun page that we only PM customers on.
http://www.facebook.com/Powell.Herford?ref=hl

I've no interest in twitter and I found the Facebook system was a great idea for us at that time, but now we no longer need it. Worth a try though if you want. We'd always post on club / interest and selling sites telling people who we are and what we do, and how to contact us.

Hope this helped.
Thanks Chris Great post.
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

concept

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Dani J

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Re: Social Media <<<<-----Question for everyone
« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2012, 07:27:28 pm »
i use face book and You tub, they are future for any business who wants to expand.

Window Washers

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Re: Social Media <<<<-----Question for everyone
« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2012, 07:33:07 pm »
Ian, the great question avoider...lol

 :P


sorry Simon answer it is research yes but not a really a training course more a downloadable guide to help those that what to no some basic things on this subject free of charge. I just need to get more votes on the poll and more questions and reasons why people like hate don't understand it., whats stopping them doing it ect
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

Dave Willis

Re: Social Media <<<<-----Question for everyone
« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2012, 07:33:07 pm »
I've just used bath tub.

richywilts

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Re: Social Media <<<<-----Question for everyone
« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2012, 07:42:15 pm »
ive got over 1500 friends on facebook and do post statuses up with variety of pics etc conny cleans, gutters and driveways and window cleaning etc i find you get a lot of people asking for quotes etc but not a great deal materialises, as a lot of them are friends i feel i have to quote a little lower n then still dont get the work i do it more as just general marketing get the name out there, on twitter i have say once a week tweet to a lot of businesses asking if they require free quote etc never had anything tho

id say facebook work the best for me
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

Window Washers

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Re: Social Media <<<<-----Question for everyone
« Reply #33 on: November 30, 2012, 07:50:34 pm »
Just voted Ian,

Hopefully sorting out website/leaflets and social over xmas period. Will pop a load of beers your way if you want to help ;)

After our chat about the "perfection bit" i put it into practice.

On Thursday my average per hour was well up!!!! and with loads and loads and loads of travelling. 6 villages!
excellent stuff glad to help you :) and of course i will help you on that side, beer sounds good :)
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

concept

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Re: Social Media <<<<-----Question for everyone
« Reply #34 on: November 30, 2012, 09:40:01 pm »
Ian, the great question avoider...lol

 :P


sorry Simon answer it is research yes but not a really a training course more a downloadable guide to help those that what to no some basic things on this subject free of charge. I just need to get more votes on the poll and more questions and reasons why people like hate don't understand it., whats stopping them doing it ect

Sounds like a good idea.

No doubt the haters will be out in force soon tho!


Window Washers

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Re: Social Media <<<<-----Question for everyone
« Reply #35 on: November 30, 2012, 11:27:32 pm »
Ian, the great question avoider...lol

 :P


sorry Simon answer it is research yes but not a really a training course more a downloadable guide to help those that what to no some basic things on this subject free of charge. I just need to get more votes on the poll and more questions and reasons why people like hate don't understand it., whats stopping them doing it ect

Sounds like a good idea.

No doubt the haters will be out in force soon tho!


i hope so, and no doubt at all lol but I've delt with far worse in my life mate, so I'm sure I will cope :)
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

Window Washers

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Re: Social Media <<<<----- please click on the poll inside
« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2012, 10:15:32 am »
Thanks to everyone so far that has posted their views and the guys that have voted

So who's reading this and hasn't voted or commented please at least vote I'm genuinely interested in your views.

Ian
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

robbo333

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Re: Social Media question for everyone
« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2012, 12:12:27 pm »
I'm only 4 months in but don't want to use any of them. I think they are a great media for advertising (just look at the companies who are using them) but not for window cleaning. Effective advertising is about getting the best return for the effort and resources you put in. For me it's canvassing.
why do you think its not good for window cleaning? same question to anyone else thinking the same way ?


It's not the place I would look to go and find a window cleaner (or any other product or service for that matter)
It's more geared up for young people (not a bad thing, but it limits my potential market for customers). Probably in 15 years it will be the best place to advertise!
I only want customers in my local town and surrounding villages. Facebook is more UK wide.
If I spent three hours sorting out a facebook account and updating it etc, I just think my time would be better spent canvassing.

If my website was properly sorted, my leafletting was consistent and regular and I had covered all the other angles of how to get new custys, then I would give facebook a go. Any opportunity to get new business should never be overlooked. But you have to go with what works for you.


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For all other enquiries, please press1"

keyser soze

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Re: Your thoughts on Social Media ..... see the votes
« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2012, 03:16:10 pm »
ian do you find facebook rewarding to your business at this time or are you thinking for the future