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John Geurkink

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Changes in OP
« on: November 26, 2012, 02:55:33 pm »
What many know as OP in the UK is not the same as we now have here, The Trinty CM https://store.trinityrenewalsystems.com/image/cache/data/trinity/trinity-right-500x500%20-%20Copy-500x500.jpg
is designed quite a bit different, it has three speeds and here is a video of the difference in what a CM does over a Oreck, Challenger, Orbot or a Floormac for that matter. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U17Dg0rcHQ&feature=plcp

Paul Moss

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Re: Changes in OP
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2012, 04:59:01 pm »
John I will tell you what as i must have about 12 different machines now :o

Send me one over and I will test it out next year with Jamie against all the other OP/Rotarys, in front of 50 other cleaning companies, if its that good then i will buy it and get you more customers in the UK , if its just on par with the others then I will post it back and we are quits.

Simples  :D

John Geurkink

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Re: Changes in OP
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2012, 05:11:32 pm »
If I sell any to the UK it will be through Nick and while this  may SOUND arrogant, it really isn't but there is no comparison between the Trinity Series machines and the old style OP, that is simply a fact. I have to work out the 230 volt and pump issue and maybe Nick and I can get one in your hands, NOTHING do I like more than these machines being put head to head with the others.

I know all the OP machines  like the back of my hand, owned and used them all, every one except the Floormac, and the quality of clean, speed of clean, is not even comparable.

I know it sounds like bragging, but this has been my life's work, not something I just started doing.
Here is how the Trinity Machines came about.. like it or not, this is just the facts.
http://trinityrenewalsystems.com/our-company/history/why-call-it-the-trinity/

Paul Moss

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Re: Changes in OP
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2012, 05:39:55 pm »
Do you mean Nick from Solutions

Andrew Briscoe

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Re: Changes in OP
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2012, 06:11:57 pm »
In your link it says it should have 3 heads, do you mean 3 different heads,
or 3 as in a Cimex type 3 head ?

would be nice to see pics of the underside (business end) of the machine

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Changes in OP
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2012, 06:25:49 pm »
Mossy,
I'd be interested in seeing the Trinity, you never know we might both get converted, sell our TM's and all the other cleaning parphenial we have and become certified Encappers. ;D

mark_roberts

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Re: Changes in OP
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2012, 06:31:15 pm »
John

Is the handle on the trinity extendable as it seems everyone is hunched over it.  Not Good posture for us tall guys.

Mark

Craigp

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Re: Changes in OP
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2012, 06:39:45 pm »
Isn't this just trickery with the dot pattern, as on this Orbot demo it looks alot better;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuM5YBQsF9g

AshWhite

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Re: Changes in OP
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2012, 06:46:26 pm »
Yes, Paul - I think he means Nick@Solutions.
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Paul Moss

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Re: Changes in OP
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2012, 07:04:11 pm »
Ash have you ever seen Nick and John in the same room  :)

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Changes in OP
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2012, 07:06:00 pm »
I can't see the sprayborg people advertising at the top of the page being too chuffed at a competitor getting all this free airtime. ???

Len Gribble

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Re: Changes in OP
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2012, 07:36:54 pm »
John

You could try dragons den or why not contact numatic or dowding and plummer and get it built under licence they know a thing or two about circular motion (think rug doctor ;))

Simon

Changed to DF  ;D
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AshWhite

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Re: Changes in OP
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2012, 07:44:47 pm »
John, I have in the past read your posts on some of the American forums and I appreciate that you know your onions when it comes to OP cleaning. I'm curious as to whether you have been over to the UK to showcase your machine, and to try it on some of the wool carpets that we encounter on a regular basis here? Or if that is a plan for the future?
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Paul Moss

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Re: Changes in OP
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2012, 07:45:40 pm »
I think Len and Eric Bristow speak the same language.

Len can you phone me then im a celebrity comes on and translate please  :)

Paul Moss

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Re: Changes in OP
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2012, 07:48:16 pm »
Ash  dont get too bogged down with wool and synth, a filthy carpet is a  filthy carpet and will all clean roughly the same.

I think the UK guys are a bit more switched on though than the guys from the States  :D

AshWhite

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Re: Changes in OP
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2012, 08:22:57 pm »
I think Len and Eric Bristow speak the same language.

Len can you phone me then im a celebrity comes on and translate please  :)
;D
As it happens, Eric Bristow reminds me of Dave Ingram for some reason!
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Simon Gerrard

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Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Changes in OP
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2012, 08:39:45 pm »
I think we may get a lot more range of textiles to clean over here which obviously becomes more challenging compared to state side.

Shaun

John Geurkink

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Re: Changes in OP
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2012, 09:36:04 pm »
Isn't this just trickery with the dot pattern, as on this Orbot demo it looks alot better;

I love that first line in the video, "Hoss was designed to give you the right amount of oscillation"  Yes where did they get that from??? LOL

They got that from CCSOP my old company. Nothing new in that orbit, same as my old op machines. Even the counterbalance is the same. No new technology, I guess they thought no one would know. No, not any trickery at all, just a different pattern of circles is all. Ever think why a guy would patent what has been out there for decades? LOL ::)
In your link it says it should have 3 heads, do you mean 3 different heads,
or 3 as in a Cimex type 3 head ?


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Mossy,
I'd be interested in seeing the Trinity, you never know we might both get converted, sell our TM's and all the other cleaning parphenial we have and become certified Encappers.

Sure wouldn't be the first time!
I can't see the sprayborg people advertising at the top of the page being too chuffed at a competitor getting all this free airtime.
Like I said, I don't even sell to the UK yet... besides if you only knew the ride they had on us, you probably wouldn't worry about it.

Paul Moss

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Re: Changes in OP
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2012, 09:57:08 pm »
I think Len and Eric Bristow speak the same language.

Len can you phone me then im a celebrity comes on and translate please  :)
;D
As it happens, Eric Bristow reminds me of Dave Ingram for some reason!

So thats where Dave has dissapeared to  ;D