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windiewasher

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Re: city and guilds
« Reply #80 on: November 25, 2012, 08:36:13 pm »
Am I the only one that has done the NVQ course and was not impressed with it?

I am a mainly domestic window cleaner and think it was a waste of my time and taxpayers money. Too much of the course was spent filling in forms and ticking boxes that had nothing to do with H&S or window cleaning but a lot to do with funding.
when and where did you do it Ucky ?
Sadly paper work is part of an nvq no way round that

Bristol Last Spring, The coarse was compleated in 3 days not the planned 4 and no follow up on site visit from an assesor, I really dont think I learnt anything my common sence didnt already know and feel no more qualified/trained now than I did before the coarse. 
who did the wfp training can you remember ? I know the training has changed the good thing is if you didn't learn anything your working safely and within the law which is excellent and you can now prove it :)

lets hope the right information regarding health and safety as i hear someone stated some laws was none existent on the forum!
Also i see winpro has asked you a questions you seem to be ducking a question regarding h+s laws!
Takings off all first cleans till march 7th 2014
October  total=  cleaned  extra per month
November = cleaned extra per month
Total £  so far.

windiewasher

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Re: city and guilds
« Reply #81 on: November 25, 2012, 08:37:09 pm »
If the training has changed, does this mean it wasn't good before ?

hmmm does that mean people wasted there time doing the course as the training was sub standard?
Takings off all first cleans till march 7th 2014
October  total=  cleaned  extra per month
November = cleaned extra per month
Total £  so far.

Moderator David@stives

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Re: city and guilds
« Reply #82 on: November 25, 2012, 08:38:59 pm »
Hi Ian

sorry had to get that one in first lol, knew it was coming doh

Window Washers

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Re: city and guilds
« Reply #83 on: November 25, 2012, 08:41:28 pm »
If the training has changed, does this mean it wasn't good before ?
not at all dave, but thing move forward things get added

Example things we did 10 years ago are different from today it does t mean the training was bad last spring at all
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

Window Washers

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Re: city and guilds
« Reply #84 on: November 25, 2012, 08:44:29 pm »
If the training has changed, does this mean it wasn't good before ?

hmmm does that mean people wasted there time doing the course as the training was sub standard?
not at all Dave is pushing your buttons for reaction

To answer your question, you already answered it for winpro I didn't need to answer
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

windiewasher

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Re: city and guilds
« Reply #85 on: November 25, 2012, 08:49:19 pm »
If the training has changed, does this mean it wasn't good before ?

hmmm does that mean people wasted there time doing the course as the training was sub standard?
not at all Dave is pushing your buttons for reaction

To answer your question, you already answered it for winpro I didn't need to answer
what your ducking the question?
Takings off all first cleans till march 7th 2014
October  total=  cleaned  extra per month
November = cleaned extra per month
Total £  so far.

Window Washers

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Re: city and guilds
« Reply #86 on: November 25, 2012, 08:51:06 pm »
If the training has changed, does this mean it wasn't good before ?

hmmm does that mean people wasted there time doing the course as the training was sub standard?
not at all Dave is pushing your buttons for reaction

To answer your question, you already answered it for winpro I didn't need to answer
what your ducking the question?
?
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

windiewasher

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Re: city and guilds
« Reply #87 on: November 25, 2012, 09:06:57 pm »
nice chatting to you ian
Takings off all first cleans till march 7th 2014
October  total=  cleaned  extra per month
November = cleaned extra per month
Total £  so far.

Window Washers

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Re: city and guilds
« Reply #88 on: November 25, 2012, 09:26:08 pm »
nice chatting to you ian
i guess that does not mean me, even though I enjoyed getting to know a little more about your reasons doc I swear we had this convo a good while back
Have a good evening anyways
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

Dave Willis

Re: city and guilds
« Reply #89 on: November 25, 2012, 09:29:02 pm »
So do you cordon off the area you are working in then Ian?

Window Washers

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Re: city and guilds
« Reply #90 on: November 25, 2012, 09:41:15 pm »
So do you cordon off the area you are working in then Ian?
i would look stupid if I cordoned myself in my office Marketting if your trying to rake up last weekend that record have been changed  ;)
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

Dave Willis

Re: city and guilds
« Reply #91 on: November 25, 2012, 10:05:06 pm »
Hmm surprised your workers don't then with your impeccable safety qualifications. Don't they teach you anything at the NVQ?

So, who's going to be responsible if one of your workers drop their pole on someones head?

Window Washers

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Re: city and guilds
« Reply #92 on: November 25, 2012, 10:12:53 pm »
Hmm surprised your workers don't then with your impeccable safety qualifications. Don't they teach you anything at the NVQ?

So, who's going to be responsible if one of your workers drop their pole on someones head?
worry not about my business, look after your own
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

Dave Willis

Re: city and guilds
« Reply #93 on: November 25, 2012, 10:25:13 pm »
What a stupid answer - you work alongside Willis and neither of you can talk about the subject he started. You've both cocked up big time with that one haven't you Ian?
Do they teach this on the course or will they teach this in the future? I can't ask your mate 'cos conveniently he's deleted his account and run for cover.

Window Washers

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Re: city and guilds
« Reply #94 on: November 25, 2012, 10:37:25 pm »
What a stupid answer - you work alongside Willis and neither of you can talk about the subject he started. You've both cocked up big time with that one haven't you Ian?
Do they teach this on the course or will they teach this in the future?
if you would like to know about the impact43 course please call them.

I have not cocked up in anyway you know very little about me and rather than me being rude to you, whichnindint want to be I would advise you speak to them rather than trying to insult me. Cheers

If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

Dave Willis

Re: city and guilds
« Reply #95 on: November 25, 2012, 10:40:33 pm »
I'm not insulting you I'm asking you questions. I'm sorry you can't understand plain English.

Dave Willis

Re: city and guilds
« Reply #96 on: November 25, 2012, 10:45:46 pm »


You work alongside them you love preaching the NVQ message and yet won't discuss it. Your ramblings and superior attitude kind of puts me off the course to be honest. I was picked as an assessor for NVQ's in the print trade and saw straight through it, it was 90% waffle dressed up as a qualification. The window cleaning version seems even worse.
Perhaps you could point out the insults I've hurled at you and report them to a moderator if you feel victimised. I'm sure you won't find any.  

James Leet

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Re: city and guilds
« Reply #97 on: November 25, 2012, 11:16:23 pm »
NVQ in Window cleaning again, come on guys, lets leave it alone, if we ignore the fact that its happening, it might go away and we will not all be a laughing stock

I have been out on the boat today, so i have missed this delightful thread  ;D It is good to see people with sense and not just accepting this is the way it should be



i was informed you have a interest in these nvq's as you are getting something out them,i,e a wage? not sure if thats true but heard a rumour!
if true i can see why you think a nvq in window cleaning is so important,lol pmsl.
i can just imagine going canvassing and telling everyone you have nvq's in window cleaning,by the time you get to the 5th house the people in white coats will come and take you away!
 come on iv'e never laughed so much in all my life,nvq in window cleaning,lol
 No wonder the country is in such a mess,all the homeless and unemployed yet the government are prepared to throw money at such a worthless course!
 
 When your window cleaning with a pole the brush cleans the window,doh
 if your using a ladder you have to climb it,scratching my head.
 Don't drop your pole at full height its dangerous.
 Well done you have a nvq! wow wee  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
i will make One thing clear to you, I do not get paid to promote nvqs
I have had mine over 2 years if you look back you will see this, you wasn't informed you read it the other day when you was slagging off impact with james and whats his face your remarks just go to show why people really should go on and get one, if you employ which I am only guessing you don't from your comments would land you in serious hot water with that attitude, you my friend can laugh and wet yourself when laughing all you like :o as I said prior you have a chip on your shoulder what nvq do you have ?



Due to the fact that Ian ' wishywashy' Wicks has mentioned me, i thought it only polite to reply

Ian ' wishywashy' Wicks is of course full of the virtues of this course, For people who do not know, he has a ' vested interest " as he works for the people who provide the course, just pointing this out as new members might not realise this, it might be a idea for suppliers to have to put that in the profile, just so we know that they have a vested interest in this and are bias

In reply to me ' slagging off ' impact, that was far from the truth, I was just pointing out the discrepancies, i guess if i do not tow the line, thats slagging them off ?

James Leet

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Re: city and guilds
« Reply #98 on: November 25, 2012, 11:18:35 pm »
If the training has changed, does this mean it wasn't good before ?

hmmm does that mean people wasted there time doing the course as the training was sub standard?
not at all Dave is pushing your buttons for reaction

To answer your question, you already answered it for winpro I didn't need to answer
what your ducking the question?

He is good that that  ;)

James Leet

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Re: city and guilds
« Reply #99 on: November 25, 2012, 11:21:43 pm »
So do you cordon off the area you are working in then Ian?
i would look stupid if I cordoned myself in my office Marketting if your trying to rake up last weekend that record have been changed  ;)

It wasnt changed Ian, The record player owner took the player away as Mr Willis pays the record owner a fee to have exclusive songs played, must be great fun listening to the same old song