[C o z y]

Image can mean a lot. If you're mostly domestic, some of your custies, no matter what boots you wear who who's kit you use, see you like this. Some don't. But not many domestic custies give a toss about if you gave a degree in window wiping. I understand both sides, but you can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear lads. When you want to go mostly commercial then it may be a good thing as part of your "shiney things" and whistles and bells to impress a commercial custy. But then again, commercial will drop you for a  5 quid undercut.



This is how some see us. I don't give a toss, as long as they pay. I lost any chips on my shoulders at about the 10 year point. Now I see free time and bank account healthy.

[Washing Windows]

It's all jealousy

You are seriously deluded Mr. Wicks!!

Spend more time with your family or take up a hobby is my advice to you! Brush up on your grammar too, it's terrible!

Personal attacks on a window cleaning forum? /golfclap

Duncan

[Window Washers]

i was informed you have a interest in these nvq's as you are getting something out them,i,e a wage? not sure if thats true but heard a rumour!
if true i can see why you think a nvq in window cleaning is so important,lol pmsl.
i can just imagine going canvassing and telling everyone you have nvq's in window cleaning,by the time you get to the 5th house the people in white coats will come and take you away!
 come on iv'e never laughed so much in all my life,nvq in window cleaning,lol
 No wonder the country is in such a mess,all the homeless and unemployed yet the government are prepared to throw money at such a worthless course!
 
 When your window cleaning with a pole the brush cleans the window,doh
 if your using a ladder you have to climb it,scratching my head.
 Don't drop your pole at full height its dangerous.
 Well done you have a nvq! wow wee  

i will make One thing clear to you, I do not get paid to promote nvqs
I have had mine over 2 years if you look back you will see this, you wasn't informed you read it the other day when you was slagging off impact with james and whats his face your remarks just go to show why people really should go on and get one, if you employ which I am only guessing you don't from your comments would land you in serious hot water with that attitude, you my friend can laugh and wet yourself when laughing all you like as I said prior you have a chip on your shoulder what nvq do you have ?

[windiewasher]

i was informed you have a interest in these nvq's as you are getting something out them,i,e a wage? not sure if thats true but heard a rumour!
if true i can see why you think a nvq in window cleaning is so important,lol pmsl.
i can just imagine going canvassing and telling everyone you have nvq's in window cleaning,by the time you get to the 5th house the people in white coats will come and take you away!
 come on iv'e never laughed so much in all my life,nvq in window cleaning,lol
 No wonder the country is in such a mess,all the homeless and unemployed yet the government are prepared to throw money at such a worthless course!
 
 When your window cleaning with a pole the brush cleans the window,doh
 if your using a ladder you have to climb it,scratching my head.
 Don't drop your pole at full height its dangerous.
 Well done you have a nvq! wow wee  

i will make One thing clear to you, I do not get paid to promote nvqs
I have had mine over 2 years, your remarks just gobo show why people really should go on and get one, if you employ which I am only guess you don't from your comments would land you in serious hot water with that attitude, you my friend can laugh and wet yourself when laughing all you like as I said prior you have a chip on your shoulder what nvq do you have ?

Nvq 1,2 and 3 Hard Landscaping
Nvq 1,2 in printing.plus a few other qualifications

[windiewasher]

Why do i have a chip on my shoulder?
You seem to have a chip on your shoulder with anyone that disagrees with you about Nvq's

[Window Washers]

Why do i have a chip on my shoulder?
You seem to have a chip on your shoulder with anyone that disagrees with you about Nvq's

i like debate I have no chip , I do get a little passionate sometimes I agree
I do not know what your real beef is with the nvq that why I asked you

Is it you have an nvq in something else and this makes a mockery of it
Is it because mick Willis took some of your work
Is it you can't get finding

That's what I was asking I don't have a problem with you, I would openly say it if i did I don't know you fella, so what is your problem with it

[Window Washers]

Am I the only one that has done the NVQ course and was not impressed with it?

I am a mainly domestic window cleaner and think it was a waste of my time and taxpayers money. Too much of the course was spent filling in forms and ticking boxes that had nothing to do with H&S or window cleaning but a lot to do with funding.

when and where did you do it Ucky ?
Sadly paper work is part of an nvq no way round that

[Rogue Trader]

Ian you want me to re-read Daves post, i just have now i think you should read mine again, and it is ok all you nvq qualified window cleaners you are now as professional as everybody else in the world, haha, sorry if you think this is a wind up , im a a fully fledged window cleaning nvq hater

you ask if i have certs, well not for window cleaning im afraid but guess what it hasnt stopped me from building a successful and safe business.

does cycling proficiency count?

[windiewasher]

Why do i have a chip on my shoulder?
You seem to have a chip on your shoulder with anyone that disagrees with you about Nvq's

i like debate I have no chip , I do get a little passionate sometimes I agree
I do not know what your real beef is with the nvq that why I asked you

Is it you have an nvq in something else and this makes a mockery of it.yes
Is it because mick Willis took some of your work  Who is he?
Is it you can't get finding                                  i wouldnt want funding and thats the truth

That's what I was asking I don't have a problem with you, I would openly say it if i did I don't know you fella, so what is your problem with it

[windiewasher]

Am I the only one that has done the NVQ course and was not impressed with it?

I am a mainly domestic window cleaner and think it was a waste of my time and taxpayers money. Too much of the course was spent filling in forms and ticking boxes that had nothing to do with H&S or window cleaning but a lot to do with funding.

when and where did you do it Ucky ?
Sadly paper work is part of an nvq no way round that

3 years of hard graft from me to get NVQ's in Landscape and now i can do 3 days form filling for Nvq level 1+2
Can i charge more because i have NVQ's?

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

It does, because by pointing out all the latest H&S regs it makes people think about their working practices.

A lot of the latest regs are now law, but many are still ignoring them, and putting themselves and other in danger!

Think what you like about Andrew Willis, and his company, but he is helping save lives, and he has gained free funding.

Do you not think anyone who is promoting H&S, and promoting a more professional image of window cleaning deserves
credit ?     Yes he is getting paid,  so what he has to make a living like any business.

Could you point out which of these "latest regs" are now law?

I have no problem with H&S, after all, it just amounts to common sense. I do have a problem though when someone, or some company start scaremainering & actually participating in a campaign of "miss-information" for financial gain! This is the stage when the industry gets ruined!

Well?

[Frankybadboy]

can we all have a group hug please i need to feel some love here

[windiewasher]

It does, because by pointing out all the latest H&S regs it makes people think about their working practices.

A lot of the latest regs are now law, but many are still ignoring them, and putting themselves and other in danger!

Think what you like about Andrew Willis, and his company, but he is helping save lives, and he has gained free funding.

Do you not think anyone who is promoting H&S, and promoting a more professional image of window cleaning deserves
credit ?     Yes he is getting paid,  so what he has to make a living like any business.

Could you point out which of these "latest regs" are now law?

I have no problem with H&S, after all, it just amounts to common sense. I do have a problem though when someone, or some company start scaremainering & actually participating in a campaign of "miss-information" for financial gain! This is the stage when the industry gets ruined!

Well?

Google it m8!

[Window Washers]

Am I the only one that has done the NVQ course and was not impressed with it?

I am a mainly domestic window cleaner and think it was a waste of my time and taxpayers money. Too much of the course was spent filling in forms and ticking boxes that had nothing to do with H&S or window cleaning but a lot to do with funding.

when and where did you do it Ucky ?
Sadly paper work is part of an nvq no way round that

3 years of hard graft from me to get NVQ's in Landscape and now i can do 3 days form filling for Nvq level 1+2
Can i charge more because i have NVQ's?

yes or no depends how you price and present yourself I guess  but to do window cleaning your Dont need nvqs in hard landscaping nor printing that was sort of a waste of time wasn't it?  are you annoyed that you can't do that anymore and are stuck cleaning windows like us delinquents ?

[windiewasher]

Am I the only one that has done the NVQ course and was not impressed with it?

I am a mainly domestic window cleaner and think it was a waste of my time and taxpayers money. Too much of the course was spent filling in forms and ticking boxes that had nothing to do with H&S or window cleaning but a lot to do with funding.

when and where did you do it Ucky ?
Sadly paper work is part of an nvq no way round that

3 years of hard graft from me to get NVQ's in Landscape and now i can do 3 days form filling for Nvq level 1+2
Can i charge more because i have NVQ's?

yes or no depends how you price and present yourself I guess  but to do window cleaning your Dont need nvqs in hard landscaping nor printing that was sort of a waste of time wasn't it?  are you annoyed that you can't do that anymore and are stuck cleaning windows like us delinquents ?

No i choose window cleaning as a stop gap!

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Am I the only one that has done the NVQ course and was not impressed with it?

I am a mainly domestic window cleaner and think it was a waste of my time and taxpayers money. Too much of the course was spent filling in forms and ticking boxes that had nothing to do with H&S or window cleaning but a lot to do with funding.

when and where did you do it Ucky ?
Sadly paper work is part of an nvq no way round that

3 years of hard graft from me to get NVQ's in Landscape and now i can do 3 days form filling for Nvq level 1+2
Can i charge more because i have NVQ's?

yes or no depends how you price and present yourself I guess  but to do window cleaning your Dont need nvqs in hard landscaping nor printing that was sort of a waste of time wasn't it?  are you annoyed that you can't do that anymore and are stuck cleaning windows like us delinquents ?

I reckon it's 'cos he (same as most) realises that they worthless! For Only the ones running the racket do they have any worth & that is in a financial return!

[windiewasher]

It does, because by pointing out all the latest H&S regs it makes people think about their working practices.

A lot of the latest regs are now law, but many are still ignoring them, and putting themselves and other in danger!

Think what you like about Andrew Willis, and his company, but he is helping save lives, and he has gained free funding.

Do you not think anyone who is promoting H&S, and promoting a more professional image of window cleaning deserves
credit ?     Yes he is getting paid,  so what he has to make a living like any business.

Could you point out which of these "latest regs" are now law?

I have no problem with H&S, after all, it just amounts to common sense. I do have a problem though when someone, or some company start scaremainering & actually participating in a campaign of "miss-information" for financial gain! This is the stage when the industry gets ruined!

Well?

Come on were waiting for your answer

[Window Washers]

Am I the only one that has done the NVQ course and was not impressed with it?

I am a mainly domestic window cleaner and think it was a waste of my time and taxpayers money. Too much of the course was spent filling in forms and ticking boxes that had nothing to do with H&S or window cleaning but a lot to do with funding.

when and where did you do it Ucky ?
Sadly paper work is part of an nvq no way round that

3 years of hard graft from me to get NVQ's in Landscape and now i can do 3 days form filling for Nvq level 1+2
Can i charge more because i have NVQ's?

yes or no depends how you price and present yourself I guess  but to do window cleaning your Dont need nvqs in hard landscaping nor printing that was sort of a waste of time wasn't it?  are you annoyed that you can't do that anymore and are stuck cleaning windows like us delinquents ?

No i choose window cleaning as a stop gap!

really, how longs the stop gap ? And what you doing when you start back ?

[Window Washers]

Am I the only one that has done the NVQ course and was not impressed with it?

I am a mainly domestic window cleaner and think it was a waste of my time and taxpayers money. Too much of the course was spent filling in forms and ticking boxes that had nothing to do with H&S or window cleaning but a lot to do with funding.

when and where did you do it Ucky ?
Sadly paper work is part of an nvq no way round that

Bristol Last Spring, The coarse was compleated in 3 days not the planned 4 and no follow up on site visit from an assesor, I really dont think I learnt anything my common sence didnt already know and feel no more qualified/trained now than I did before the coarse. 

who did the wfp training can you remember ? I know the training has changed the good thing is if you didn't learn anything your working safely and within the law which is excellent and you can now prove it

[Moderator David@stives]

If the training has changed, does this mean it wasn't good before ?