[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Amazing how much window cleaning has changed over the years, just think how many lives have been saved due to better H&S !       Any course that promotes safer working, and promotes a more professional image gets my vote.

I worked on ladders for many years due to ignorance and being pig headed ( came off twice too ) yes it is more expensive investing in all the gear, and yes some people might scoff at qualifications for window cleaning but how highly do you view your life ?

So, are you telling us that you really didn't have the intelligence to realise the risks for all those ladder using years?

I thought I was bullet proof and plodded on regardless 

So a qualification would have made no difference anyway then?

[wpclean]

It does, because by pointing out all the latest H&S regs it makes people think about their working practices.

A lot of the latest regs are now law, but many are still ignoring them, and putting themselves and other in danger!

Think what you like about Andrew Willis, and his company, but he is helping save lives, and he has gained free funding.

Do you not think anyone who is promoting H&S, and promoting a more professional image of window cleaning deserves
credit ?     Yes he is getting paid,  so what he has to make a living like any business.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

It does, because by pointing out all the latest H&S regs it makes people think about their working practices.

A lot of the latest regs are now law, but many are still ignoring them, and putting themselves and other in danger!

Think what you like about Andrew Willis, and his company, but he is helping save lives, and he has gained free funding.

Do you not think anyone who is promoting H&S, and promoting a more professional image of window cleaning deserves
credit ?     Yes he is getting paid,  so what he has to make a living like any business.

Could you point out which of these "latest regs" are now law?

I have no problem with H&S, after all, it just amounts to common sense. I do have a problem though when someone, or some company start scaremainering & actually participating in a campaign of "miss-information" for financial gain! This is the stage when the industry gets ruined!

[Window Washers]

It does, because by pointing out all the latest H&S regs it makes people think about their working practices.

A lot of the latest regs are now law, but many are still ignoring them, and putting themselves and other in danger!

Think what you like about Andrew Willis, and his company, but he is helping save lives, and he has gained free funding.

Do you not think anyone who is promoting H&S, and promoting a more professional image of window cleaning deserves
credit ?     Yes he is getting paid,  so what he has to make a living like any business.

Could you point out which of these "latest regs" are now law?

I have no problem with H&S, after all, it just amounts to common sense. I do have a problem though when someone, or some company start scaremainering & actually participating in a campaign of "miss-information" for financial gain! This is the stage when the industry gets ruined!

winpro you really need to be careful what you say online because your liable for it mate, #justsaying

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

It does, because by pointing out all the latest H&S regs it makes people think about their working practices.

A lot of the latest regs are now law, but many are still ignoring them, and putting themselves and other in danger!

Think what you like about Andrew Willis, and his company, but he is helping save lives, and he has gained free funding.

Do you not think anyone who is promoting H&S, and promoting a more professional image of window cleaning deserves
credit ?     Yes he is getting paid,  so what he has to make a living like any business.

Could you point out which of these "latest regs" are now law?

I have no problem with H&S, after all, it just amounts to common sense. I do have a problem though when someone, or some company start scaremainering & actually participating in a campaign of "miss-information" for financial gain! This is the stage when the industry gets ruined!

winpro you really need to be careful what you say online because your liable for it mate, #justsaying

Point to the part where "I" mentioned any individual or company by name?

And apart from that, it's true!

[Window Washers]

It does, because by pointing out all the latest H&S regs it makes people think about their working practices.

A lot of the latest regs are now law, but many are still ignoring them, and putting themselves and other in danger!

Think what you like about Andrew Willis, and his company, but he is helping save lives, and he has gained free funding.

Do you not think anyone who is promoting H&S, and promoting a more professional image of window cleaning deserves
credit ?     Yes he is getting paid,  so what he has to make a living like any business.

Could you point out which of these "latest regs" are now law?

I have no problem with H&S, after all, it just amounts to common sense. I do have a problem though when someone, or some company start scaremainering & actually participating in a campaign of "miss-information" for financial gain! This is the stage when the industry gets ruined!

winpro you really need to be careful what you say online because your liable for it mate, #justsaying

Point to the part where "I" mentioned any individual or company by name?

And apart from that, it's true!

lol being true in your mind does not make it fact, I was mearly giving some friendly advice to help you

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

It does, because by pointing out all the latest H&S regs it makes people think about their working practices.

A lot of the latest regs are now law, but many are still ignoring them, and putting themselves and other in danger!

Think what you like about Andrew Willis, and his company, but he is helping save lives, and he has gained free funding.

Do you not think anyone who is promoting H&S, and promoting a more professional image of window cleaning deserves
credit ?     Yes he is getting paid,  so what he has to make a living like any business.

Could you point out which of these "latest regs" are now law?

I have no problem with H&S, after all, it just amounts to common sense. I do have a problem though when someone, or some company start scaremainering & actually participating in a campaign of "miss-information" for financial gain! This is the stage when the industry gets ruined!

winpro you really need to be careful what you say online because your liable for it mate, #justsaying

Point to the part where "I" mentioned any individual or company by name?

And apart from that, it's true!

lol being true in your mind does not make it fact, I was mearly giving some friendly advice to help you

Well, the"facts" were on here, in black & white very recently Ian. Thanks for the advice though.

[Window Washers]

It does, because by pointing out all the latest H&S regs it makes people think about their working practices.

A lot of the latest regs are now law, but many are still ignoring them, and putting themselves and other in danger!

Think what you like about Andrew Willis, and his company, but he is helping save lives, and he has gained free funding.

Do you not think anyone who is promoting H&S, and promoting a more professional image of window cleaning deserves
credit ?     Yes he is getting paid,  so what he has to make a living like any business.

Could you point out which of these "latest regs" are now law?

I have no problem with H&S, after all, it just amounts to common sense. I do have a problem though when someone, or some company start scaremainering & actually participating in a campaign of "miss-information" for financial gain! This is the stage when the industry gets ruined!

winpro you really need to be careful what you say online because your liable for it mate, #justsaying

Point to the part where "I" mentioned any individual or company by name?

And apart from that, it's true!

lol being true in your mind does not make it fact, I was mearly giving some friendly advice to help you

Well, the"facts" were on here, in black & white very recently Ian. Thanks for the advice though.

your welcome

[gavinb]

I couldn't even get on the damn course !!!

"over qualified " were the words used !!


Just because I have 7 nvq level 2 and 2 level 3 in another trade I'm deemed to over qualified to do a course on how to clean damn windows .

[windiewasher]

I couldn't even get on the damn course !!!

"over qualified " were the words used !!


Just because I have 7 nvq level 2 and 2 level 3 in another trade I'm deemed to over qualified to do a course on how to clean damn windows .

Because you have proved you have a brain you dont need to do a nvq in a worthless job.window cleaning is definately not a trade.

[keyser soze]

you can do the course but you will have to pay .. its about 1200 quid

[Window Washers]

I couldn't even get on the damn course !!!

"over qualified " were the words used !!


Just because I have 7 nvq level 2 and 2 level 3 in another trade I'm deemed to over qualified to do a course on how to clean damn windows .

Because you have proved you have a brain you dont need to do a nvq in a worthless job.window cleaning is definately not a trade.

if your so clever and us not so please tell me why your a window cleaner ? You clearly have an issue with it, by the way just to tip you ever near to the edge window cleaning is a trade as is a decorating as is a cooking as is a carpentry as is a plumbing

Why so negative on the worthless job you have to do ?

Do you have another worthless nvq in something else is this the reason for this chip on your shoulder ?

[Rogue Trader]

NVQ in window cleaning indeed , having read this thread a did chuckle a couple of times at the image of mr and mrs smith's window cleaner looking all proud when he rocks up and announces his newly aquired NVQ and then they close the door and p themselves .... brilliant!................... if you need to sit an exam to make yourself feel that your business choice is worthwhile then maybe you lot are the ones who really feel inferior for bein JUST a window cleaner.

Get and NVQ and any other 2 bit qualifications that the latest training firm comes up with to make a few quid to try and convince yourselves that this really is very professional after all , or just stand tall and announce that you are a window cleaner and not feel inferior , your choice,

You have chosen window cleaning for whatever reason you have chosen it , most of you are WFP cos you understand health and safety, you are sensible and dont wanna risk injuries running up and down a ladder everyday. You already have the common sense and are already self aware enough to understand safety of you and others around you (the majority of you anyway) due to you advances in the trade that you have already taken and invested in. Do you really need to give up your earnings for a day/week or however long it takes for someone to tell you what you already know and give you a certificate at the end of it?

You lot choose what you want to do with your own feelings of inferiority but i say,

NVQ do me a favour and i'm out

[Window Washers]

NVQ in window cleaning indeed , having read this thread a did chuckle a couple of times at the image of mr and mrs smith's window cleaner looking all proud when he rocks up and announces his newly aquired NVQ and then they close the door and p themselves .... brilliant!................... if you need to sit an exam to make yourself feel that your business choice is worthwhile then maybe you lot are the ones who really feel inferior for bein JUST a window cleaner.

Get and NVQ and any other 2 bit qualifications that the latest training firm comes up with to make a few quid to try and convince yourselves that this really is very professional after all , or just stand tall and announce that you are a window cleaner and not feel inferior , your choice,

You have chosen window cleaning for whatever reason you have chosen it , most of you are WFP cos you understand health and safety, you are sensible and dont wanna risk injuries running up and down a ladder everyday. You already have the common sense and are already self aware enough to understand safety of you and others around you (the majority of you anyway) due to you advances in the trade that you have already taken and invested in. Do you really need to give up your earnings for a day/week or however long it takes for someone to tell you what you already know and give you a certificate at the end of it?

You lot choose what you want to do with your own feelings of inferiority but i say,

NVQ do me a favour and i'm out

thats your choice and that fine thankfully not everyone thinks the same as you. Do you not have any Certs at all. ? I know for down of outer work I would not have for it without it states clearly they want to know your serious and trained so to me it has helped. Read Dave Morris post it sums it up very well

[Washing Windows]

unbelievable!!

A guy post to say he just received his certificate as he's clearly feeling please with himself for the effort he's made in getting it. A few of us take time out to congratulate him and have a little chest thump ourselves and all this NVQ hate! WTF?

It's clear some of you have issues with Impact43 and staff... but seriously guys?! Do you never show off new gear or talk about your setups? YOU don't think a qualification in window cleaning is worthwhile.. we get it... but lay off ffs... it's gotten very VERY OLD!!!

[Window Washers]

It's all jealousy

[gavinb]

I couldn't even get on the damn course !!!

"over qualified " were the words used !!


Just because I have 7 nvq level 2 and 2 level 3 in another trade I'm deemed to over qualified to do a course on how to clean damn windows .

Because you have proved you have a brain you dont need to do a nvq in a worthless job.window cleaning is definately not a trade.

if your so clever and us not so please tell me why your a window cleaner ?

Well you see sir I was a qualified pipe welder / pipe fabricator in my last trade was in the trade since I was 16 I'm now 32 , last July I suffered a cardiac arrest ( same thing as that footballer ) I now have an ICD implanted in my chest Incase it happens again and due to the nature of the trade with electrical equipment electro magnetic interference etc it is deemed too high a risk for me to take to return to my former trade .

So even though I have all those pieces of paper they are useless to me .

[Window Washers]

I couldn't even get on the damn course !!!

"over qualified " were the words used !!


Just because I have 7 nvq level 2 and 2 level 3 in another trade I'm deemed to over qualified to do a course on how to clean damn windows .

Because you have proved you have a brain you dont need to do a nvq in a worthless job.window cleaning is definately not a trade.

if your so clever and us not so please tell me why your a window cleaner ?

Well you see sir I was a qualified pipe welder / pipe fabricator in my last trade was in the trade since I was 16 I'm now 32 , last July I suffered a cardiac arrest ( same thing as that footballer ) I now have an ICD implanted in my chest Incase it happens again and due to the nature of the trade with electrical equipment electro magnetic interference etc it is deemed too high a risk for me to take to return to my former trade .

So even though I have all those pieces of paper they are useless to me .

gav that was not aimed at you mate , it was doc he's got a chip in his shoulder and when asked cant answer

Sorry to here you were unwell that must be very scary
impact do other courses on wfp and ladders that maybe of interest ionic sorry bwca also do courses they are low fee paid for one though but you can get certification for them just not city & guilds

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

It's all jealousy

You are seriously deluded Mr. Wicks!!

Spend more time with your family or take up a hobby is my advice to you! Brush up on your grammar too, it's terrible!

[Window Washers]

It's all jealousy

You are seriously deluded Mr. Wicks!!

Spend more time with your family or take up a hobby is my advice to you! Brush up on your grammar too, it's terrible!

lol that i am Mr Pro , I spend enough quality time with my wife & boys I'm sat with them right now as it goes having a  glass of red you love my grammar it gives you more of a brain workout, I am also dyslexic which does not help, if you ever cannot understand what I am writing please let me know and I will try to explain better