[cleaning co]

hi people,for last coulpe weeks every time i use my wand it gets blocked with what looks like scale and i can only get them unblock then by  unbolting the jets   grrrrrrrrr   ive never had this prob before do u recon its scale coming loose in the heater ? or in the hoses or wand ? looked in the tank and thats clean  or is it this alltec chem doing it ? its doing my head in anyone recomed good descaler to use?
gary

[stuart_clark]

I have heard of people complaining about ultimate master in the past regarding blocking of jets but i am not sure there is any treuth in it. Stu Clark

[Doug Holloway]

Gary,

You need a descaler , acid rinse if you have it  or an acidic floor cleaner will also do the job.

You could also try a kettle descaler if you have none of the above.

Cheers

Doug

[John_Flynn]

Get thi sen upt Yorksha an get thi sen sum propa watta!!

[cleaning co]

lol if id had drink i could prob understand u john

[Dennis]

I have used Phos from Clover Chemicals for ages in my Ninja - good stuff.
Good for kettles, shower heads etc too.

http://www.cloverchemicals.com/prod_cat/phos.htm

[John_Flynn]

Get thi sen upt Yorksha an get thi sen sum propa watta!!

'Come up to Yorkshire and sample some genuine water!!!'

[BRSL]

Hi Gary cheak hear for hard water areas

http://www.water-softening.org.uk/hardwaterareas.html

If your running a hose to your machine you should think about getting an inline water softner, prevention is better than cure 

we use hydramasters descaler designed for cc machines but any pressure washer place should have the stuff

James

[cleaning co]

WHAT SORT MONEY ARE THEY JAMES?  HOW DO THEY WORK?
CHEERS GARY

[BRSL]

simple plastic tube filled with shiney stuff, bolt in van (there not very big) plug hose in one end (hose lock connector) and length of hose out the other side into tank, it's as easy as that, it's like a big britta filter, doesnt stop water pressuer either

But every 150 gallons they need flushing with salt, just as easy unplug hoses swap them around so water "in" now goes through a salt container and into the "out" of water softner and a length of hose on the "in" going down a drain / sewer, it takes about 20 mins to complete dont let them tell u it only takes 5

salt is about £5 a bag and will last about a week with a TM so a porty will last you ages, not sure how much they cost as got mine with the machine buut there not dear

James

[Dave Parry]

James, I use the same system, but back flush every 800 litres, about 175 galls  During the summer I have to do this about once or twice a week.
only takes about 10 minuites and a big bag of salt lasts a couple of months.

[BRSL]

depending where you live and work depends on how much salt and often you backflush, when we were working in Southampton we were backflushing every 60 gls with full pot off salt and still descaling machine every other week it was shocking without it we needed to descale every couple to few days

remember soft water also has a higher sufactant level which means better cleaning 

James

[Dave Parry]

Live in a hard water area (Thames Valley), use slightly under a pot of salt each flush, only had to descale once, when machine fairly new,  due to not using enough salt, martin at H.M. told me ½ pot, but it was not enough.

[BRSL]

The same half wasnt enough. I find good water pressure helps too, but back in sunny southwest now no such thing as limescale down here but you do have to raise the water from the wells still lol  so what TM you got Dave 

James

[Geoff Jewkes]

I had problems with ultimate master blocking jets. Machine etc was new from alltec, needed to remove jets to clear. They were overtightened at alltec and had to be removed by an engineer ( at a cost ) using some gas!!! Told alltec about this and they sent me 2 new jets. A week later they sent me a bill for £27 for the jets. Haven`t touched alltec chemicals since, even though I think they`re good  Also got a free course with my package, asked and E mailed regarding dates available, still no reply, and no course 

[Derek_Walker]

Apart from the scale problem, does your wand have filters behind the jets? if not these are quite inexpensive to buy and will prevent any scale actually blocking the jet itself.

Derek

[des]

Filters from nick at solution,s .Got them on all my wands and there so quick to remove and clean Also make sure you use a clean bucket  for filling and an other for dirty water

[Dave Parry]

pileprofile, had a boxxer since Feb 2004, Great m/c,  great backup but when needs changing will get a diesel, so I can use cheaper red variety.

[Liahona]

as everyone else has said you need a water softener, other than that poor a water softener like calgon into the water supply and you wont get a blockage and you will get a better clean.

[cleaning co]

right i hav descaled it twice now  and its still doing it grrrrrrrrrrrr   ive never had this prob before in over ten years so it must be ullt master powder  like i said i hav descaled twice took the jets of and run 100ltrs of fresh water through machine and every time i go to clean its bloked after couple mins think i be going back to prochem chems
gary