Quote from: Mark Etting on November 18, 2012, 01:42:09 pmWhy not write about it on here? We don't lose a days wages or waste fuel, you don't lose anything either. Trevor Perry can write sensible understandable posts - can't you Andrew?Mark take it from me Andrew has a vast amount of knowledge of the industry, i disagree with some of his interpretations but there is a saying dont throw the baby out with the bath water why not take andrew up on his offer, it is pointless if these discussions become slagging matches as then no one gains any benefit.
Why not write about it on here? We don't lose a days wages or waste fuel, you don't lose anything either. Trevor Perry can write sensible understandable posts - can't you Andrew?
I will buy the first drink for everyone attending, beer or coffee and no I don't have a vested interested
Quote from: Andrew Willis on November 16, 2012, 12:14:04 amQuote from: Nick Wareham on November 15, 2012, 06:09:07 pmFor me, the amazing Andy Willis and his crew lost all credibility when he wrote in that article that people using waterfed pole, even in a private street, should courdon off the area below the pole in case it falls and hurts someone, and this was the law.It clearly is NOT the law, and is just them scare mongering. I think he said that he thought that because of this that 90% of waterfed polers were breaking the law.If this is the level of regulation they are pushing for then they should disappear back to whatever it was they were doing before they realised they could claim a fat cheque from the government for every window cleaner they get to go on their course.Nick WarehamThank you for your post Please up load a copy of your training certificate for the use of water fed poleWithin the next weekI guess you are amongst many that don't have oneIf thats the case then you don't comply with PUWER 1998If you have one accept my apologies If not stop posting on these items Andrew that bit in red; would you point me to where PUWER 98 says I need a training certificate for using a wfp please?I understand that I and any employee should know how to use it properly and safely but I do not see the requirement for a certificate.
Quote from: Nick Wareham on November 15, 2012, 06:09:07 pmFor me, the amazing Andy Willis and his crew lost all credibility when he wrote in that article that people using waterfed pole, even in a private street, should courdon off the area below the pole in case it falls and hurts someone, and this was the law.It clearly is NOT the law, and is just them scare mongering. I think he said that he thought that because of this that 90% of waterfed polers were breaking the law.If this is the level of regulation they are pushing for then they should disappear back to whatever it was they were doing before they realised they could claim a fat cheque from the government for every window cleaner they get to go on their course.Nick WarehamThank you for your post Please up load a copy of your training certificate for the use of water fed poleWithin the next weekI guess you are amongst many that don't have oneIf thats the case then you don't comply with PUWER 1998If you have one accept my apologies If not stop posting on these items
For me, the amazing Andy Willis and his crew lost all credibility when he wrote in that article that people using waterfed pole, even in a private street, should courdon off the area below the pole in case it falls and hurts someone, and this was the law.It clearly is NOT the law, and is just them scare mongering. I think he said that he thought that because of this that 90% of waterfed polers were breaking the law.If this is the level of regulation they are pushing for then they should disappear back to whatever it was they were doing before they realised they could claim a fat cheque from the government for every window cleaner they get to go on their course.
Quote from: matthewprice on November 15, 2012, 07:08:02 pmsaw today a scafold rail around a flat roof less than 15 feet from the ground so that an ajoining small wall could be coated ,guyes were a long way from the edge .made me wonder what safety measures we should use when working from a flat roof According to HSE guidelines a securely attached lanyard, but according to my wife there is always "reasonable and practicable" exception and cleaning one window above a flat roof on someone elses property would be one of those. No doubt some will argue, but when you look at likelihood and impact, you would have to be pretty odd to see the necessity for a lanyard tethered to your customer's property.
saw today a scafold rail around a flat roof less than 15 feet from the ground so that an ajoining small wall could be coated ,guyes were a long way from the edge .made me wonder what safety measures we should use when working from a flat roof
Quote from: Steve Sed on November 15, 2012, 07:18:42 pmQuote from: matthewprice on November 15, 2012, 07:08:02 pmsaw today a scafold rail around a flat roof less than 15 feet from the ground so that an ajoining small wall could be coated ,guyes were a long way from the edge .made me wonder what safety measures we should use when working from a flat roof According to HSE guidelines a securely attached lanyard, but according to my wife there is always "reasonable and practicable" exception and cleaning one window above a flat roof on someone elses property would be one of those. No doubt some will argue, but when you look at likelihood and impact, you would have to be pretty odd to see the necessity for a lanyard tethered to your customer's property.have you ever fallen off gold ? you obviously ( maybe not) know that there is high probability for serious injury or death falling from a roof did you know this ?
I've realised now why I don't come on here anymore, are you all thick?
Quote from: Window Washers on November 18, 2012, 03:24:10 pmQuote from: Steve Sed on November 15, 2012, 07:18:42 pmQuote from: matthewprice on November 15, 2012, 07:08:02 pmsaw today a scafold rail around a flat roof less than 15 feet from the ground so that an ajoining small wall could be coated ,guyes were a long way from the edge .made me wonder what safety measures we should use when working from a flat roof According to HSE guidelines a securely attached lanyard, but according to my wife there is always "reasonable and practicable" exception and cleaning one window above a flat roof on someone elses property would be one of those. No doubt some will argue, but when you look at likelihood and impact, you would have to be pretty odd to see the necessity for a lanyard tethered to your customer's property.have you ever fallen off gold ? you obviously ( maybe not) know that there is high probability for serious injury or death falling from a roof did you know this ?Ian, I would quit, you are positively starting to embarrass yourself & insult others along with it!
you offend me Ian, just keep your trap shut
WWIn answer to your questions:-No.Yes.