David Willis here, I just want to have my say on this whole thread.
Firstly...wow, don’t you all think this whole thing is a bit over the top. The original post was started by a forum user who was expressing their own experience with a particular supplier...something which happens here daily!
Would I have personally posted the thread and dealt with it this way...no! My brother is a 26 year old man who has been running a business for 2 years, in hindsight he would probably look back and think "I wish I hadn't posted that".
How many of you have done this in the past, if you trail back through all of other members posts you will find some sort of dirt or an embarrassing post.
Some of you revert back to the posts where he had said all but good things about pure freedom. At that time he probably felt that way....most of you probably had a full set of hair at some point but that has changed, as does the opinion people have.
Has it really done any harm to Pure Freedom, my opinion would be that it has had the total opposite and when they read this which of course they will, they will have a big smile across their faces and from the comments on here, so they should have. This doesn't change the way Michael feels he has been treated as a customer.
Regarding the old chestnut of Impact43/Clean safe. When clean safe was created a couple of years back, Impact43 did have a financial interest as some of you have pointed out (I really can’t be bothered to explain it all again, you can find it in past posts). Again times and circumstances lead to change and maybe this forum had a part in this as it was seen as a conflict of interest. Only my dad (Andrew Willis) can answer this. But what I can say is Andrew or Impact43 do not have anything to do with clean safe. Clean safe has a unit next to the offices of Impact43 and therefore the reason for the same or similar IP addresses, other than that, they have nothing to share other than the old pint of milk or reel of bog roll.
Anyone on here who knows my dad well, will know he is a top bloke and has a very strong ethic in regards to trust and integrity, so any issues with fake profiles etc in the Impact camp will be dealt with accordingly.
Mark, you are correct that Impact use the pure freedom product in training, the same as we do many other different suppliers equipment, all of these are on a totally neutral basis and the point is to allow users to make their own minds up. The part I am lost on though is you say you know me and Andrew personally, when have we met? Have you attended our training? Can’t put a name to a face on this one!
In regards to all the other comments regarding Clean Safe and the local Lincolnshire window cleaners....really is water off a window cleaners waterproofs. I am bored of hearing all this undercutting talk, for starters most of you at one point were pee'd off because we were canvassing your areas hard. I get door to door salesman on my door all the time trying to sell me gas/electricity/stolen goods....oh is that just Boston and do I give them the time of day? If my current supplier of gas/electricity is providing a bad service or are charging me too much then yes I am happy to hear what they have to say. If I am happy with my current supplier and what I am paying then I tell them "no thank you".
If you are all providing a good service at a competitive rate then you have nothing to worry about....or bitch about! If you not then you only have yourself to blame.
Why would we, like any other business want to work hard for less? Have we underpriced work at some point?...No doubt! Anyone who says they haven’t are basically talking crap! Basically we all work in different ways and do the day to day tasks differently, if we didn’t then we would not all be on a forum listening to how others do it.
The best thing for this whole thread is for it to disappear into the sunset...like many others have and for us all to get up in the morning go out, earn some dollar and come back on here tomorrow to argue over the next episode.