[spudd]

Afternoon guy, just toying with the idea of getting another van and having 1 man in each van rather than 2 in 1 van (which is what we run at present)

And was just curious, this is mainly to the guys that run 2 or more vans but all opinions welcome.

How much do you expect a van to earn on a weekly basis by the time you covered fuel insurance etc before you can make a bit of profit..

I've got my own numbers in my head but interested to get everyone's view and opinions on things..

Spikes 

[Barnes Wallis]

The w/c bubble burst years ago.

[robertphil]

think carefully,case the guy on his own starts creaming off some of the work . dont ever have a full round list left in that van

i had a bloke in a 2nd van earlier this year, wrecked the van,later found out he had started creaming off add -on jobs and cash and then he started canvassing my customers. Luckily for me he never saw a full round list or i believe hed have doorknocked the lot!

moneywise it was paying off having the 2nd van and i will do it again next year but next time will do it with a driver who is too old to clean with passengers who cant drive but can clean well if that makes sense

[Moderator David@stives]

I don't look at the amount they bring back

I look at it as

Is everyone making the effort getting through the workload

It is all relative to the amount and type of work you have, when you do split them, one guy could be doing the cream, and the other picking up loose ends, so there could be a vast difference in what each van takes

[Total shine cleaning services]

I'm going that route in march, I have costed it out with the wage I'm going to be paying and all the other costs associated, ie, insurances, van costs, wage costs (employers nic's) ,equipment etc etc, the fact that the van will only produce for 46.5 weeks because of holiday entitlement,extra accountancy fees and the odd training course, you can make a profit at £150 a day but ideally that van needs to be hitting £200

Graham

[Dave Willis]

Have I done my maths wrong? That won't cover the guys wages. I might have the wrong end of the stick 

[mlscontractcleaner]

Have I done my maths wrong? That won't cover the guys wages. I might have the wrong end of the stick 

That's daily mate!!!

[Dave Willis]

What I meant was - how do you get £150 profit a day out of £200 turnover? Just sounds to high.

[Total shine cleaning services]

that example is the daily take of the van

graham

[spudd]

I'm going that route in march, I have costed it out with the wage I'm going to be paying and all the other costs associated, ie, insurances, van costs, wage costs (employers nic's) ,equipment etc etc, the fact that the van will only produce for 46.5 weeks because of holiday entitlement,extra accountancy fees and the odd training course, you can make a profit at £150 a day but ideally that van needs to be hitting £200

Graham

I think you've pretty much hit the nail on the head there totslshine...

Thanks for all the feed back guys it's always good to get a few different opinions on these matter and it's always interesting to see if people look at things in the same sort ok way 

[George P]

the best way to get to correct fiqures is
A - weekly wage (lets say £7.50ph) £7.50 * 40hrs = 300
B- * 52 wks = £15,6000.00
C - this should represent 40% of turnover, so 100% = £39,000
D - now you should only factor in 40 wks working
E - 39,000 between 40 wks = 975.00 p.wk and 195.00 per day
F- considering most staff dont work as hard as you, and more fAg breaks etc you should only allow 5hrs actual working time - so £195 by 5 hrs is £39.00 p.hr

this is something ive not adhered to as didnt think it was possible in window cleaning, but it is something that im working towards, working for less and you may as well work for someels without the hassle of staff, red tape, and tax etc

[Total shine cleaning services]

£15600 is gonna be more like £18k with your employers nic's on top, 46.5 weeks production out of van after they have taken holidays.
I am also getting my employee to card and canvass and he is on a bonus scheme to do this -50% of first clean

graham

[Richard iSparkle]

Afternoon guy, just toying with the idea of getting another van and having 1 man in each van rather than 2 in 1 van (which is what we run at present)

And was just curious, this is mainly to the guys that run 2 or more vans but all opinions welcome.

How much do you expect a van to earn on a weekly basis by the time you covered fuel insurance etc before you can make a bit of profit..

I've got my own numbers in my head but interested to get everyone's view and opinions on things..

Spikes 

when a van is maxed out were aiming for 2 staff turning over £500 dayly, 5 days a week.  roughly speaking the first 2 days a week covers all expences (comfortably) so left with £1500 profit.

WIth one staff member i reckon they would turn over £350 daily so very rougly speaking would look to earn £1000 profit.

this is when the vans are at max capacity though working 5 full days week in week out