[Nameless Drudge]

The  Facelift/Phoenix banner at the top of the page keeps flashing this up.

Quite obviously a lie!,the first,the last,one of many?

Its time for the long term product/customer service reviews to do the talking and there doesn`t appear to be any.Good luck if you have bought one.

[thermoclean]

Having used facelift poles for many years I would say there products have been of very good quality, if there new poles are as good as there previous but new lighter designs and more competive pricing then they will get my business.

[Nameless Drudge]

Having used facelift poles for many years I would say there products have been of very good quality, if there new poles are as good as there previous but new lighter designs and more competive pricing then they will get my business.

Are they unrivalled?

[ben M]

The  Facelift/Phoenix banner at the top of the page keeps flashing this up.

Quite obviously a lie!,the first,the last,one of many?

Its time for the long term product/customer service reviews to do the talking and there doesn`t appear to be any.Good luck if you have bought one.

stupid comment!

[David Kent @ KentKleen]

faster lighter easier. Lighter???

[Stephen Fox]

The  Facelift/Phoenix banner at the top of the page keeps flashing this up.

Quite obviously a lie!,the first,the last,one of many?

Its time for the long term product/customer service reviews to do the talking and there doesn`t appear to be any.Good luck if you have bought one.

Nameless, how is it a lie and an obvious one at that?

In fact, if you could point out a rival and why, I will take the banner down.

[wpclean]

PLEASE STOP !    Too many people on this forum have got too much time on their hands arguing about inches, feet,grams, and kilograms.   
Stephen Fox do what Alex Gardiner did a while ago, and take a break from this forum . . . . . let your product do the talking as you you are on a hiding to nothing trying to reply to every poster wanting answers.

I admire your stamina and patience looking at the previous posts 

[keyser soze]

it would be nice if the phoenix was given a chance, looks like a decent pole. id like to give it a try

[Steve Sed]

it would be nice if the phoenix was given a chance, looks like a decent pole. id like to give it a try

So would I. It looks good, I like the clamps from what I have seen and it looks like a genuine challenger to the market leaders.

[SB Cleaning]

PLEASE STOP !    Too many people on this forum have got too much time on their hands arguing about inches, feet,grams, and kilograms.   
Stephen Fox do what Alex Gardiner did a while ago, and take a break from this forum . . . . . let your product do the talking as you you are on a hiding to nothing trying to reply to every poster wanting answers.

I admire your stamina and patience looking at the previous posts 

hear hear

[Mike #1]

Totally agree 

[roundbuilder]

Well im going to give facelift a go. Its about time some competition for gardiners comes as maybe will reflect in the pole prices finally comeing down with competition. Near £500 for an 18ft extreme is a joke. Even £300 for slx. If another company does equal as good poles cheaper then fair play. I have yet to read all these long posts about facelift vs gardiners as are so boring they are only overpriced poles at the end of the day whatever way you look at it.

[Window Washers]

Have to say facelifts clamps on the new poles are very nice, and they are smaller than I thought they would be.

[wfp master]

i would buy one if they were the size they say they are. but there not.18 ft one is not 18ft. ect ect. if i need a 18 ft pole why would i buy a 16ft pole.

[wightsurf]

It seems we have had shorter length poles for yrs,just didn't know it.
I agree the clamps are nice.

[JackieW]

swfc said;

''i would buy one if they were the size they say they are. but there not.18 ft one is not 18ft. ect ect. if i need a 18 ft pole why would i buy a 16ft pole.''

It seems you may be restricted to only buying the 5m Harris then. As discussed elsewhere even the Gardiner SLX 22 is 'only' 20 feet 11 inches for example.

Just look at the specified extended length, not the name of the pole.




 

[gary999]

swfc said;

''i would buy one if they were the size they say they are. but there not.18 ft one is not 18ft. ect ect. if i need a 18 ft pole why would i buy a 16ft pole.''

It seems you may be restricted to only buying the 5m Harris then. As discussed elsewhere even the Gardiner SLX 22 is 'only' 20 feet 11 inches for example.

Just look at the specified extended length, not the name of the pole.

you are wasting your time with gardiner fans they have special tinted glasses



 

[Moderator David@stives]

There Gardiner Fanboys around here  :

[AuRavelling79]

There Gardiner Fanboys around here  :

In English please DMSI; your post makes little sense as written.

Do you mean:-

They're or There are?

And then:-

Gardiner Fanboys around here (on this forum)
Gardiner Fanboys around here (St. Ives? Cornwall?)
Gardiner Fanboys around here (my staff)

Enquiring minds want to know! 

[paul marshall]

well ive been using my facelift for 2 weeks now and personally i think it is brilliant , i always took a step back on pole isues imy atitude was a poles a pole but im defo saving more time and earning more money , an lets face it thats what were all in this game for