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gwrightson

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DIY risks
« on: October 30, 2012, 07:39:32 pm »



I had a call last week to see if i could solve the problem in an elderly persons home, lounge carpet polyprop.

I arrived the smell of urine knocked you out , carpet was lifted at all the edges so wondered what had been attempted.  well said the owner, the cleaner tried cleaning ( a karcher  machine ) and it started to smell  so threw some buckets of water on it, it was soaking so we lifted it and put fan heaters on over night,
I suggested  it may not fit back due to been over wet , he seemed to think not possible, how ever i took one look at the underlay  it was wet through , stains all over it obviously from a cpl years of urine and the smelll had been resurrected . first thing you need to do is new underlay , clean all the flooring refit then I will tackle the carpet itself .

I arrived  this morning  c/fitters in middle of job with a problem, shrunk both ways, it could not be restreched so owner has decided to put  a upvc edging around room to hide .
i cleaned and treatedsaid carpet , spent another  4 hrs doing other area,s and left with a very happy but inhappy customer at the cost of the mistake!!  
So here is a pic of said carpet .
Geoff
who ever said dont knock before u try ,i never tried dog crap but i know i wouldnt like  haha

Derek_Walker

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Re: diy risks
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2012, 08:07:05 pm »
Did you get the camera wet Geoff? I think you shrunk the picture  ;D

gwrightson

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Re: diy risks
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2012, 08:44:27 pm »


I cant seem to win uploading pics on here , ::)

Last ones were far to large,  might give it another go tommorow /

Geoff
who ever said dont knock before u try ,i never tried dog crap but i know i wouldnt like  haha

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: diy risks
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2012, 10:28:34 pm »
Tight arse customer doesn't look as though there's any gripper or underlay.

Shaun

markpowell

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Re: diy risks
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2012, 11:01:16 pm »
Good old Belgian Wiltons for ya  :'(

Paul Moss

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Re: diy risks
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2012, 11:20:32 pm »
Thats not BW its wool , but it has got a hessian backing, hence the shrinkage ;)

gwrightson

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Re: diy risks
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2012, 05:18:53 am »

Paul, it is polyprop , even the carpet fitters remarked on the fact it was poly prop

Shaun the carpet had originaly been glued down because of the fact that many of the reodents used wheel chairs or walking aids. apparently to prevent the carpet from moving and rucking .

Geoff

who ever said dont knock before u try ,i never tried dog crap but i know i wouldnt like  haha

John Kelly

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Re: diy risks
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2012, 08:11:13 am »
Pul you need to stop doing those floods and get out to more carpet cleaning ;D

Paul Moss

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Re: diy risks
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2012, 08:44:10 am »
 ;D Touche John

Id still put money on it being wool. :)

gwrightson

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Re: DIY risks
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2012, 10:54:44 am »
Posted by: Paul Moss  Posted on: Today at 08:44:10 am 
Insert Quote 
  Touche John

Id still put money on it being wool.   

ok Paul, how much  you ptting on? 
I am revisiting in 2 weeks some more work , i shall cut off a small sample and post , of course i will need the postage cost as well as the wager  ;D

Geoff
who ever said dont knock before u try ,i never tried dog crap but i know i wouldnt like  haha

Paul Moss

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Re: DIY risks
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2012, 01:09:44 pm »
Ok deal Geoff, i would like a 12 inch square piece cut out of the centre of the room please :D

gwrightson

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Re: DIY risks
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2012, 01:53:08 pm »
 ;D


Shall have to be a really good amount of money on the bet to get that one done  :o  ,  enough to cover the cost of replacment will suffice,  mind its only polyprop so wont be too bad  :)

Geoff
who ever said dont knock before u try ,i never tried dog crap but i know i wouldnt like  haha

markpowell

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Re: DIY risks
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2012, 02:12:02 pm »
Thought it was only Belgian Wiltons that shrank both ways  ???

Mike Halliday

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Re: DIY risks
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2012, 02:59:03 pm »
I tend to agree with Paul  that it's wool, never seen that pattern in P/P.

 have you done a chemical test or are you taking the fitters word that its P/P?.... did you disolve a fibre in boiling Xylene? which as we all know is the only true way to be 100% certain it is Polypropylene
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

gwrightson

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Re: DIY risks
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2012, 05:28:17 pm »
not nesesary Mike,

i am pretty sure 2 c/fitters should know what they were doing and talking about , just to confirm my recogntion .

How ever , your more than welcome to come along in a cpl of weeks if you got a spare half hour .

Geoff
who ever said dont knock before u try ,i never tried dog crap but i know i wouldnt like  haha

Paul Moss

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Re: DIY risks
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2012, 06:03:44 pm »
All the fitters ive met over the years have been very good at laying the carpet but crap knowledge of construction and fibre content.

Buckland

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Re: DIY risks
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2012, 11:33:01 pm »
All the fitters ive met over the years have been very good at laying the carpet but crap knowledge of construction and fibre content.

exactly my experience - I work with a carpet supply/fitting company that run three vans and they have surprised me with either their lack of knowledge about carpet content/construction or complete lack of interest - I suppose they just have to fit it at the end of the day
Buckland Carpet & Fabric Care :: 01590 688938
www.SteamCleanCarpetService.co.uk

Paul Moss

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Re: DIY risks
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2012, 10:00:49 am »
Ok i was waiting for somebody else to make the comment....Shaun :-* are you not playing anymore?

I would say its wool and its also on an Axminister loom and not a Wilton loom. Geoff when you go back take a picture of the back, then i will know for sure what it is.

nevil

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Re: DIY risks
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2012, 02:46:14 pm »
Geoff.

Did you get a decent result on the urine smell. I would think a chunk of the contamination would be in the backing where it's pretty well there to stay on a woven carpet. 

gwrightson

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Re: DIY risks
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2012, 05:36:54 pm »
Nevil,
yes , forunatly  with the carpet been lifted it did give me the opportuinty to physical clean the back, and treat ,
 i even went over with the cimex and dynamall on the final attack .
 custy very happy , both with odour, and the clean .

as a foot note, the pattern n backing was exactly matching,  the carpet only bent one way, usualy a good sign !!

not one hint of the smell of wool ecspecialy as it was damp, and i would not have thought a wool carpet would shrink as much as that, 
Geooff.
ps   ::)
who ever said dont knock before u try ,i never tried dog crap but i know i wouldnt like  haha