[Rogue Trader]

so what is the score with facelift vs gardiners really, was the northern van fest reviewer just being polite or do the new facelift poles really compete with the gardiner range?

[wfp master]

yes & no

[richywilts]

id say they do i was really ill on the night so didnt really play with them much but they look very rigid nice and light and have a nice feel to them, time will tell if they are durable i suppose all new poles look and fell nice but i do feel gardiners are let down by being bit weak so maybe this is where the facelifts can compete

[gary999]

are they actually selling them yet...looked on their site and coulnt
see anything

[richywilts]

think he has the cheapest models in gary

[bobplum]

i was impressed,i would consider buying one

[richywilts]

i was impressed,i would consider buying one

they must be good if bobs considering buying one cheapskate bob!!

[Aqua-dapter]

are they actually selling them yet...looked on their site and coulnt
see anything

Hi Gary,

You can get them from WCW or a Distributor, we have a small number of Hybrid and Carbon in stock.

Paul

[Small but perfectley formed]

I have a 18 ft carbon and rigidity and weight they are probably the same as six but I prefer the facelift clamps.
The facelift looks like it could be harder wearing because it has some kind of vinly wrap over the carbon so no black hands.

[paul marshall]

just got mine today , delivered personally by mike howard , im actually looking forward to work tomorow , i know everyone loves gardeners , but this could be a real rival , or a very good alternative , i will be posting a full warts n all review over the weekend , 

[Carl@Cwc]

just got mine today , delivered personally by mike howard , im actually looking forward to work tomorow , i know everyone loves gardeners , but this could be a real rival , or a very good alternative , i will be posting a full warts n all review over the weekend , 

I LOOK FORWARD TO IT M8 

[MATTHEW LEWIS]

just got mine today , delivered personally by mike howard , im actually looking forward to work tomorow , i know everyone loves gardeners , but this could be a real rival , or a very good alternative , i will be posting a full warts n all review over the weekend , 

WHAT HEIGHT WILL YOURS GO UP TOO

[wfp master]

still waiting on the review. come on spill.

[paul marshall]

all goog things come to those who wait , seriously only used it a few days ,very impressed so far but wont give full review till used for full week ,

[wfp master]

so its sh*t so far