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steve k

pricing...the right idea??
« on: January 30, 2006, 08:28:01 pm »
just seen this...that is CONFIDENT pricing :o :o

http://www.englishcleaning.co.uk/prices.htm

the best of luck to them... :D

Re: pricing...the right idea??
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2006, 08:56:37 pm »
Quote taken from Steve K's link.

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Windows.
Our minimum charge for windows is £35 plus VAT. This would normally cover up to 7 windows inside and out, assuming that there are no complications...

That is excellent pricing.  I'm far too ruddy cheap!  That works out as £2.50 per window, per side.

No Way!

I didn't really have a good look at the web-site though.  Is this an Icelandic window cleaning company.  Iceland is the most expensive country I've ever been too.

It cost me an arm and two legs just to get drunk there.


D woods

Re: pricing...the right idea??
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2006, 09:05:03 pm »
Hi Guys
These prices are for central london they are not over the top by a long way
our minimum charge is £80 plus vat.

Moderator David@stives

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Re: pricing...the right idea??
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2006, 09:14:09 pm »
David

how many man hours would your minimum cover.

Dave

D woods

Re: pricing...the right idea??
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2006, 09:18:50 pm »
Hi David
Two men up to one hour (our mobile teams work two to a van)

Moderator David@stives

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Re: pricing...the right idea??
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2006, 09:22:11 pm »
Thats about £30 more than me and i dont charge vat yet

I will hit vat level soon though and i will have to cross that bridge when i get to it.

On the very rare job i can do £40 hour on my own but to do that evryday is another matter

Pole2pole

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Re: pricing...the right idea??
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2006, 09:25:41 pm »
What is the ceiling before VAT has to be charged Dave???

Moderator David@stives

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Re: pricing...the right idea??
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2006, 09:27:14 pm »
I think it is just over £60,000

D woods

Re: pricing...the right idea??
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2006, 09:29:44 pm »
Dont forget this is central London their are loads of expenses

Re: pricing...the right idea??
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2006, 09:32:17 pm »
I remember reading something about how easy it is for some self-employed trades to get away without being vat registered; especially if you work in a mainly cash business.

Personally, if I was honest with the tax man (and I might be for all you know), I would stop before I turned over £60,000.  VAT really complicates what is a simple business.

Moderator David@stives

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Re: pricing...the right idea??
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2006, 09:36:11 pm »
David

I know of some of your background and you could command them prices as you are probably a bit more exclusive than a lot of cleaners in London.

It is getting as dear as London down here for shopping ,house prices etc .

There are a lot of London people moving down here and bringing there wealth with them.

Sometimes they cant believe how cheap i am ,but i think i was charging a good price.

So i normally say after a few months the price is going up because i am finding it to long for the price  LOL

Dave

Moderator David@stives

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Re: pricing...the right idea??
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2006, 09:39:24 pm »
Tosh

I have thought about this and i am not going to let vat hold me back.

Honestly i declare every penny ,the tax man isnt daft.

To save 1k tax you would have to hide 4k takings.

Honesty and integrity even with the tax man will eventually pay off.

I feel you cant be dishonest in one sense and honest in another,just my belief.

Dave


D woods

Re: pricing...the right idea??
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2006, 09:46:33 pm »
Hi David
we are not cheap but their are many companies more expensive than we are

Moderator David@stives

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Re: pricing...the right idea??
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2006, 09:47:43 pm »
hold right there i am on my way to london as we speak  ;D

Are you going to windex

D woods

Re: pricing...the right idea??
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2006, 09:57:41 pm »
Yes I will be at windex both days it is only up the road from us

pjulk

Re: pricing...the right idea??
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2006, 09:59:08 pm »
Christ i might have to canvass in london i can get there in half hour.
Im no where near those prices and a lot of the window cleaners in my area charge half of what i do.

If anyone need any sub contrating work done in south london im available £40 an hour.
Or £50 an hour central london

Paul

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Re: pricing...the right idea??
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2006, 10:01:14 pm »
David

I will look forward to meeting you there.

I think Glyn knows you so i will get him to point you out .

Dave

Paul

I am right behind you  ;D

master cleaner

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Re: pricing...the right idea??
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2006, 10:54:18 pm »
i live in rotherham s yorks it would take me about 3 hours to get to london but for £80 per hour give me a ring il be there
ha ha

gary

Knocker

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Re: pricing...the right idea??
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2006, 12:12:08 pm »
Hi Guys

Just been reading this thread, Although it may sound like myself and Dave are having it large, please remember that when David says we charge minimum of £80.00 + Vat (2 men for 1 hour) this does not mean that each one of our operatives generates 320.00 + Vat per day (8 hrs x 40.00). Each operative will work on average 6 hours during a normal day, when you make deductions for overheads such as Travel, insurance, holiday, sickness, uniform, Employers NI, marketing, administration, management, etc. plus Red Ken charging 8.00 per vehicle and Westminster Council charging 5.00 + per hour for parking there is a not a great deal left over for champagne and luxury holidays! (although we try our best)

Moderator David@stives

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Re: pricing...the right idea??
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2006, 12:18:14 pm »
Paul

Are you Davids brother or son

Dave