[Lee Burbidge]

http://www.windowcleaningmagazine.co.uk/blog/tds-experiment-join-in-with-the-experiment-and-try-bust-this-myth/

We are looking for feed back on this experiment. Something you can try at home for yourself.....

By the way, anyone watched that film I made on using rainwater from a pink kiddies pool, straight into a trolley system ( No RO, no DI ) .... well, I cleaned an entire house with it yesterday. It was a new customer, a first clean, so really rank.... came up perfect and this water was just sitting around in my garden. Cool hey

[Dani J]

http://www.windowcleaningmagazine.co.uk/blog/tds-experiment-join-in-with-the-experiment-and-try-bust-this-myth/

We are looking for feed back on this experiment. Something you can try at home for yourself.....

By the way, anyone watched that film I made on using rainwater from a pink kiddies pool, straight into a trolley system ( No RO, no DI ) .... well, I cleaned an entire house with it yesterday. It was a new customer, a first clean, so really rank.... came up perfect and this water was just sitting around in my garden. Cool hey

Yes i did read it Lee, very interesting topic.

[Mist A Bit]

my resin is dead so my water is at 20ppm at moment, cash flow problem at moment so havent replaced resin, been using it like that all week with beautiful results
wondering if i should waste my money on resin now.

steve

[P @ F]

Mr Burbidge , surely you will upset some suppliers with this thread ?

Rich

[gary999]

this is hardly news is it

loads having been using water that isnt 000pmm for ages

i prefer zero ifind the dirts moves quicker but i will use anything up to 15ppm

ive used 43ppm when waiting for resin and been able to see minor spotting i generally
squeegee off the water on downstairs windows when used tds this high to reduce impact

[stuart mc]

this is hardly news is it

loads having been using water that isnt 000pmm for ages

i prefer zero ifind the dirts moves quicker but i will use anything up to 15ppm

ive used 43ppm when waiting for resin and been able to see minor spotting i generally
squeegee off the water on downstairs windows when used tds this high to reduce impact

where is the sigh smiley, yes gary old news again from lee, it is common sense

[gary999]

this is hardly news is it

loads having been using water that isnt 000pmm for ages

i prefer zero ifind the dirts moves quicker but i will use anything up to 15ppm

ive used 43ppm when waiting for resin and been able to see minor spotting i generally
squeegee off the water on downstairs windows when used tds this high to reduce impact

where is the sigh smiley, yes gary old news again from lee, it is common sense
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stu the king of common sense...i like it!

[rosskesava]

I've used water with a tds of up to about 25 - 30 with no problems. It makes me wonder why I change the resin when it gets above about 10. Maybe I fall for the hype that it has to be zero.

Also, Lee's paddling pool. Apart from I don't believe it had a tds of 0001 because to get 6" of rain water takes months and months and months, the amount of debris built up in that time would have contaminated the water as it rots and forget the actions of sunlight and green algae, etc etc, what about all the dirt and that in the water?

The purer the water, the more it will absorb contaminates because that's the nature of pure water. I tested my sisters water butt in her garden which gets used regularly and has a lid on it. TDS was 086 yet a paddling pool was 001.

I could be completely wrong though about the paddling pool but I don't think I am.

[gary999]

the guy above a miserable git ...but yet a wise  old owl

[Dave Willis]

I wonder if it depends on exactly what you have dissolved in your water. Limescale could be far worse than muddy water of the same reading - I don't know.
I've often wondered if a squirt of detergent or a cleaning agent would make any difference to the clean as water only does little to remove stains on white plastic.

[Mike #1]

I've used water with a tds of up to about 25 - 30 with no problems. It makes me wonder why I change the resin when it gets above about 10. Maybe I fall for the hype that it has to be zero.

Also, Lee's paddling pool. Apart from I don't believe it had a tds of 0001 because to get 6" of rain water takes months and months and months, the amount of debris built up in that time would have contaminated the water as it rots and forget the actions of sunlight and green algae, etc etc, what about all the dirt and that in the water?

The purer the water, the more it will absorb contaminates because that's the nature of pure water. I tested my sisters water butt in her garden which gets used regularly and has a lid on it. TDS was 086 yet a paddling pool was 001.

I could be completely wrong though about the paddling pool but I don't think I am.

How does it take months and months to get 6" of water try convincing people who have been flooded after it has rained for one day . Mike

[dazmond]

why take the risk?i keep mine at 000 most of the time.i let it get up to 010 then change my resin.

ive heard of numptys just plugging into customers outside taps and making a right mess of their windows!!

[Granny]

why take the risk?i keep mine at 000 most of the time.i let it get up to 010 then change my resin.

ive heard of numptys just plugging into customers outside taps and making a right mess of their windows!!

WFP around here has a really bad reputation in some areas loads don't want it because of exactly this!
Blokes who can't afford / won't pay for pure water plugging the hose directly onto the outside tap.
However there are some who are either blind or don't really look have offered us the option to use the outside tap!
G.

[Mist A Bit]

if your using water at say 020ppm think about it logiclly , how can it leave marks at just 20 particals in 100,000,000 the naked eye couldn`t possibly see anything

[rosskesava]

How does it take months and months to get 6" of water try convincing people who have been flooded after it has rained for one day . Mike

Flood water comes from elsewhere. Lee is talking about the amount of rain that fell in one place - his kiddies paddling pool.

[simonr]

my tap water is 36 & i clean my house with it like that ,couple of times there's been spotting but usually its bang on, its  tempting not to use resin at all but i do & change around 12

[Perfect Windows]

if your using water at say 020ppm think about it logiclly , how can it leave marks at just 20 particals in 100,000,000 the naked eye couldn`t possibly see anything

First off, it's parts per million, not per hundred million.  So, 20 in 1,000,000.  In which case, how could my tap water, which is only 280 parts in 1,000,000 (or 1 part in 3,571) possibly leave a mark?

Just saying the number is small (which is what you're doing) is not "thinking logically", it's just guesswork.

Vin

[Mike #1]

Floodwater comes from a source which starts with watet from the sky 2 wks ago were I live we had 10 Inces of rain in less than 24 hours .  . Mike

[Lee Burbidge]

my resin is dead so my water is at 20ppm at moment, cash flow problem at moment so havent replaced resin, been using it like that all week with beautiful results
wondering if i should waste my money on resin now.

steve

Perfect example ; you see... if you try the test you can work out the optimum TDS for your area that gives you a spot free finish or a commercial accepted finish. You might find that in your arear you are overdoing it with the resin thus costing you money. It would be quite literally money down the drain...

[Lee Burbidge]

Mr Burbidge , surely you will upset some suppliers with this thread ?

Rich

Hey Richard " ... I kid you not! A pink window cleaning van!!", how you doing buddy??? This thread is no different to any money saving thread, why pay more than you have to. You wouldn't like me to sit on information and ideas of how to save money would you? 

I am no different and no better than any of you guys, same with Perry in myth busters... And I know you guys like sharing your money saving ideas too