[Tony Edwards]

Ye like all the new poles went overseas and there is a great market in the U K. Sales pitch and weak marketing ploy to me. BEEN IN THE MARKETING GAME FOR A LONG TIME. BUILD YOUR LOCAL MARKET FIRST ITS THE CHEAPER MARKET TO CRACK. Then kill the world. Its sound like a story to me.  Believe what you like I know were my vote goes.

Never known alex to lie or come out with some old flannel

[David Kent @ KentKleen]

I started this post looking for some reviews on this new pole. A couple of positive but brief comments is all i have to work with at the moment.  
It looks and sounds great i just want some in the field feedback please?? anyone??

Question for facelift.
Do you have overseas distributors or do you send them direct?

Do you have any carbon poles in stock if so what sizes please?
Many thanks

[SB Cleaning]

Ye like all the new poles went overseas and there is a great market in the U K. Sales pitch and weak marketing ploy to me. BEEN IN THE MARKETING GAME FOR A LONG TIME. BUILD YOUR LOCAL MARKET FIRST ITS THE CHEAPER MARKET TO CRACK. Then kill the world. Its sound like a story to me.  Believe what you like I know were my vote goes.

+1

[Halfadaylee]

I believe Mike, after all 4 out of the 6 poles made could have gone to Afghanistan.
Art

[Stephen Fox]

Ye like all the new poles went overseas and there is a great market in the U K. Sales pitch and weak marketing ploy to me. BEEN IN THE MARKETING GAME FOR A LONG TIME. BUILD YOUR LOCAL MARKET FIRST ITS THE CHEAPER MARKET TO CRACK. Then kill the world. Its sound like a story to me.  Believe what you like I know were my vote goes.

The first batch were for distributors world wide and a few preview poles. These went immediately. Not a marketing ploy, just an excellent product which people have got very excited about. I'm guessing you've not actually seen or used one yet?

[Stephen Fox]

totally agree! we can't trust them now! Gardiner we can!

Why? Can't quite see the logic in that statement.

[Mike @ Facelift]

Nothing to do with marketing..... Or how easy something is to "crack"

Facelift already has distributors in Europe and USA and we have had for years....

We offered the range to alot of distributors and some took them whilst some didn't. Geography didn't affect our cost to offer these... The contacts were a call or email away... It's a small world!

[ben M]

totally agree! we can't trust them now! Gardiner we can!

Why? Can't quite see the logic in that statement.

i can! you want to sell some products but you don't have them in stock! not a good start,is it?
I lost interest, i am out! good luck anyway

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Will the next batch (the ones for public retail) be of "exactly" the same spec' as the distributor/preview specific poles?

Has anyone weighed one yet- outside facelift or WCW?

[G Griffin]

Ye like all the new poles went overseas and there is a great market in the U K. Sales pitch and weak marketing ploy to me. BEEN IN THE MARKETING GAME FOR A LONG TIME. BUILD YOUR LOCAL MARKET FIRST ITS THE CHEAPER MARKET TO CRACK. Then kill the world. Its sound like a story to me.  Believe what you like I know were my vote goes.

Never known alex to lie or come out with some old flannel

He used to use an old one as a sill cloth.

[Small but perfectley formed]

It's a pole not a car 
It's rigid light and has user friendly clamps , ok

[Dave Willis]

We have loads of Poles in our town that should be sent overseas.

[Mike @ Facelift]

It's a pole not a car 
It's rigid light and has user friendly clamps , ok

Thanks for the support from everyone...

[suds window service]

I am baffled by this so called launch of this pole it seems to be a marketing nightmare! You would have thought that facelift would have made sure some poles found there way to cleaning companies on this forum. We use solely Gardiners poles but would have been more than happy to test drive this product, and give an unbiased review.

[Mike @ Facelift]

I am baffled by this so called launch of this pole it seems to be a marketing nightmare! You would have thought that facelift would have made sure some poles found there way to cleaning companies on this forum. We use solely Gardiners poles but would have been more than happy to test drive this product, and give an unbiased review.

A few forum users have commented on the poles they have received..

Have a look through the other past threads about the Phoenix... There is around 4 threads.

[Joey Heinz]

A few window cleaners on here think their investors on dragon den, good god it's a pole.... Not a £100,000 investment.

[Mike @ Facelift]

A few window cleaners on here think their investors on dragon den, good god it's a pole.... Not a £100,000 investment.

Joey, your based in Wigan, you making it over to Richy's place tomorrow night on the wirral?

[Joey Heinz]

I've seen it, a 22' carbon, a guy who cleans near me has had one for a week, loves it.
I'm liking it, but I only window clean a couple hours a week, back pack and extel!! I know rubbish, but ok for show homes I clean.

[Mike @ Facelift]

I've seen it, a 22' carbon, a guy who cleans near me has had one for a week, loves it.
I'm liking it, but I only window clean a couple hours a week, back pack and extel!! I know rubbish, but ok for show homes I clean.

No problem, Thanks for the feedback... hopefully we can touch base in the future... I'm based not far from you myself...

[suds window service]

A few window cleaners on here think their investors on dragon den, good god it's a pole.... Not a £100,000 investment.

not a all joey. just really rubbish marketing 1) lets make enough poles to satisfy early demand. 2) lets launch the pole at several sites around the uk. 3) lets have a video demo of the new pole in action so everyone can see it.
 simples really.............