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Re: Franchise
« Reply #60 on: September 22, 2012, 08:44:01 pm »
Was Homecare that cut price operation. What puzzles me the prices have stayed the same on the leaflet for as long as I can remember

Were they quoting £45 for a Suite in 1982

It must be another Homecare, They did have a london office and the Birmingham one I worked at, they always had 2 prices, the regular price and the in the area price.

I once got a wingback chair for £70, on the carpet cleaning side their area price was 70p per sq yard and the normal price was Just over £1.

This was in 1980 1981, I don't know whether they are still in business or sold to another company.

Re: Franchise
« Reply #61 on: September 22, 2012, 08:49:03 pm »
Dan

Personally I feel that what I pay in wages is fair for the work they do, at £60 for a 6 hour day, they could complete their round in 3 days and still be paid for 4.

also they have space and time to do extra work where they get paid 50% of what they clean.

so if they worked a 6 day week they could earn £500 to £700

and yes I will make a profit out of their labour which I have no problem with.

of course if they feel hard done by, then they need to get out there and start door knocking and build their own business up.

As i say,good luck,i love to see people succeed,but i am sorry to say that i dont understand your figures imo there are many numbers stated that just dont make sense and if i was a prospective franchisee i would be extremly worried and concerned about this,but that is probably why i am just a small time wc.... ;)

don't worry about the figures, all the franchisee needs to see is on week 1 he has cleaned £200 of windows, on week 2 he has cleaned £325 on week 3 he has cleaned £450 and so on.

All I have to worry about is getting 10 and half new customers each week who pay my minimum charge of £12, but of course I will get the £15, £20, £25 and higher priced jobs as well as the £12 ones so thats the pressure off me.

Dave Willis

Re: Franchise
« Reply #62 on: September 22, 2012, 08:59:56 pm »
So what's his weekly turnover on week 52?

By week four he's already on £575 week five he's on £700 week six he's on £825 by week seven he's earning £950

Hydro are you nuts?

Re: Franchise
« Reply #63 on: September 22, 2012, 09:02:15 pm »
So what's his weekly turnover on week 52?

£962

Dave Willis

Re: Franchise
« Reply #64 on: September 22, 2012, 09:07:32 pm »
It goes up by £125 per week - look at your figures muppet!

"don't worry about the figures, all the franchisee needs to see is on week 1 he has cleaned £200 of windows, on week 2 he has cleaned £325 on week 3 he has cleaned £450 and so on."

Re: Franchise
« Reply #65 on: September 22, 2012, 09:13:25 pm »
It goes up bt £125 per week - look at your figures dullest!

maths and reading are not your strongest skills are they dave.

If you READ what I have posted and not looked at the pretty pictures on the top of the web page, you will see that I promise to get them to a turnover of £50k per year by week 52.

Now for the hardest part, are you sitting comfortable and stop sucking your gums, £50000 divide by 52 equals £961.54

I have rounded it upto £962 because i am that type of guy, all heart and no bullpoop.


Dave Willis

Re: Franchise
« Reply #66 on: September 22, 2012, 09:17:57 pm »
Look at your figures you posted just now - they make no sense whatsoever. They won't earn £50,000 in the first year will they? Think about it.

They can't because they aren't on £1000 in the first week.

Dave Willis

Re: Franchise
« Reply #67 on: September 22, 2012, 09:20:30 pm »
I'll repeat your figures for you because you will have forgotten by now with that goldfish memory.

Here you go.

"don't worry about the figures, all the franchisee needs to see is on week 1 he has cleaned £200 of windows, on week 2 he has cleaned £325 on week 3 he has cleaned £450 and so on."

Even if you can get the work (and I doubt it) you can't promise a £50,000 turnover until year two.

Dani J

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Re: Franchise
« Reply #68 on: September 22, 2012, 09:21:45 pm »
Dan

Personally I feel that what I pay in wages is fair for the work they do, at £60 for a 6 hour day, they could complete their round in 3 days and still be paid for 4.

also they have space and time to do extra work where they get paid 50% of what they clean.

so if they worked a 6 day week they could earn £500 to £700

and yes I will make a profit out of their labour which I have no problem with.

of course if they feel hard done by, then they need to get out there and start door knocking and build their own business up.

As i say,good luck,i love to see people succeed,but i am sorry to say that i dont understand your figures imo there are many numbers stated that just dont make sense and if i was a prospective franchisee i would be extremly worried and concerned about this,but that is probably why i am just a small time wc.... ;)

don't worry about the figures, all the franchisee needs to see is on week 1 he has cleaned £200 of windows, on week 2 he has cleaned £325 on week 3 he has cleaned £450 and so on.

All I have to worry about is getting 10 and half new customers each week who pay my minimum charge of £12, but of course I will get the £15, £20, £25 and higher priced jobs as well as the £12 ones so thats the pressure off me.


So according to your calculation by the 3 month your franchisee will take £1575 and going up. I think I will give up my job and become your franchisee .

Next year this time I be a millionaire   ;D

Re: Franchise
« Reply #69 on: September 22, 2012, 09:22:37 pm »
Look at your figures you posted just now - they make no sense whatsoever. They won't earn £50,000 in the first year will they? Think about it.

They can't because they aren't on £1000 in the first week.

Did I say that they would earn £50k in the 1st year, I SAID that I would get them UPTO £50k by the end of year 1.

I know it's a hard one to understand, but go with the flow, everyone else knows what it means.

Re: Franchise
« Reply #70 on: September 22, 2012, 09:23:56 pm »
Dan

Personally I feel that what I pay in wages is fair for the work they do, at £60 for a 6 hour day, they could complete their round in 3 days and still be paid for 4.

also they have space and time to do extra work where they get paid 50% of what they clean.

so if they worked a 6 day week they could earn £500 to £700

and yes I will make a profit out of their labour which I have no problem with.

of course if they feel hard done by, then they need to get out there and start door knocking and build their own business up.

As i say,good luck,i love to see people succeed,but i am sorry to say that i dont understand your figures imo there are many numbers stated that just dont make sense and if i was a prospective franchisee i would be extremly worried and concerned about this,but that is probably why i am just a small time wc.... ;)

don't worry about the figures, all the franchisee needs to see is on week 1 he has cleaned £200 of windows, on week 2 he has cleaned £325 on week 3 he has cleaned £450 and so on.

All I have to worry about is getting 10 and half new customers each week who pay my minimum charge of £12, but of course I will get the £15, £20, £25 and higher priced jobs as well as the £12 ones so thats the pressure off me.


So according to your calculation by the 3 month your franchisee will take £1575 and going up. I think I will give up my job and become your franchisee .

Next year this time I be a millionaire   ;D

no you won't

Dani J

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Re: Franchise
« Reply #71 on: September 22, 2012, 09:35:49 pm »
Dan

Personally I feel that what I pay in wages is fair for the work they do, at £60 for a 6 hour day, they could complete their round in 3 days and still be paid for 4.

also they have space and time to do extra work where they get paid 50% of what they clean.

so if they worked a 6 day week they could earn £500 to £700

and yes I will make a profit out of their labour which I have no problem with.

of course if they feel hard done by, then they need to get out there and start door knocking and build their own business up.

As i say,good luck,i love to see people succeed,but i am sorry to say that i dont understand your figures imo there are many numbers stated that just dont make sense and if i was a prospective franchisee i would be extremly worried and concerned about this,but that is probably why i am just a small time wc.... ;)

don't worry about the figures, all the franchisee needs to see is on week 1 he has cleaned £200 of windows, on week 2 he has cleaned £325 on week 3 he has cleaned £450 and so on.

All I have to worry about is getting 10 and half new customers each week who pay my minimum charge of £12, but of course I will get the £15, £20, £25 and higher priced jobs as well as the £12 ones so thats the pressure off me.


So according to your calculation by the 3 month your franchisee will take £1575 and going up. I think I will give up my job and become your franchisee .

Next year this time I be a millionaire   ;D

no you won't


so wont you give me the franchisee then ? why ? ;D ;D

Re: Franchise
« Reply #72 on: September 22, 2012, 09:40:40 pm »
Dan

Personally I feel that what I pay in wages is fair for the work they do, at £60 for a 6 hour day, they could complete their round in 3 days and still be paid for 4.

also they have space and time to do extra work where they get paid 50% of what they clean.

so if they worked a 6 day week they could earn £500 to £700

and yes I will make a profit out of their labour which I have no problem with.

of course if they feel hard done by, then they need to get out there and start door knocking and build their own business up.

As i say,good luck,i love to see people succeed,but i am sorry to say that i dont understand your figures imo there are many numbers stated that just dont make sense and if i was a prospective franchisee i would be extremly worried and concerned about this,but that is probably why i am just a small time wc.... ;)

don't worry about the figures, all the franchisee needs to see is on week 1 he has cleaned £200 of windows, on week 2 he has cleaned £325 on week 3 he has cleaned £450 and so on.

All I have to worry about is getting 10 and half new customers each week who pay my minimum charge of £12, but of course I will get the £15, £20, £25 and higher priced jobs as well as the £12 ones so thats the pressure off me.


So according to your calculation by the 3 month your franchisee will take £1575 and going up. I think I will give up my job and become your franchisee .

Next year this time I be a millionaire   ;D

no you won't


so wont you give me the franchisee then ? why ? ;D ;D

You also failed the simple reading and maths test, and they say that the kids nowadays are thick

Dani J

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Re: Franchise
« Reply #73 on: September 22, 2012, 09:48:36 pm »
Dan

Personally I feel that what I pay in wages is fair for the work they do, at £60 for a 6 hour day, they could complete their round in 3 days and still be paid for 4.

also they have space and time to do extra work where they get paid 50% of what they clean.

so if they worked a 6 day week they could earn £500 to £700

and yes I will make a profit out of their labour which I have no problem with.

of course if they feel hard done by, then they need to get out there and start door knocking and build their own business up.

As i say,good luck,i love to see people succeed,but i am sorry to say that i dont understand your figures imo there are many numbers stated that just dont make sense and if i was a prospective franchisee i would be extremly worried and concerned about this,but that is probably why i am just a small time wc.... ;)

don't worry about the figures, all the franchisee needs to see is on week 1 he has cleaned £200 of windows, on week 2 he has cleaned £325 on week 3 he has cleaned £450 and so on.

All I have to worry about is getting 10 and half new customers each week who pay my minimum charge of £12, but of course I will get the £15, £20, £25 and higher priced jobs as well as the £12 ones so thats the pressure off me.


So according to your calculation by the 3 month your franchisee will take £1575 and going up. I think I will give up my job and become your franchisee .

Next year this time I be a millionaire   ;D

no you won't


so wont you give me the franchisee then ? why ? ;D ;D

You also failed the simple reading and maths test, and they say that the kids nowadays are thick


If you try to sell your franchisee on here you need to get your facts and figures right, otherwise you only make a full of yourself.

 

Re: Franchise
« Reply #74 on: September 22, 2012, 09:51:04 pm »
Go on then where are my wrong facts and figures

Re: Franchise New
« Reply #75 on: September 22, 2012, 10:47:25 pm »
Hi Dan

I know you are not taking the pee and I do welcome yours and all others feedback.

My franchise deal is the same that Ian Lancaster does and has suceeded in, Ian has also sold his deal to other cleaners who have also suceeded in getting 1 or more franchisees.

All of these franchisors offer they same deal, but a few have small differences, some in the purchase price and other small details but the main structure of Ians deal is the same.

So now we have a franchise package that does work with different individuals, so its not something that is unique to Ian.

On all the deals the franchisee is allocated £10k of work on day one and £500 of new work is added to their round every month, until they reach a yearly turnover of £50k.

Of course if the franchisee wants and can cope with more work then he/she will be given more, if not and they are happy with £50k per year then the added work will stop once they reach the £50k barrier or £962 per week.

I don't know what training the other franchisors offer but when I take on new staff they go though a training programme of 3 months, I see no reason why a franchisee should be any different.

Also where I may differ from the others is that I loan the franchisee a member of my staff to train them up, this is not a very expensive thing if you look that with my setup I have a daily worksheet for 1 person set at £200 per day and with 2 this rises to £300.

So on week 1 the franchisee only works 1 day a week on cleaning, on week 2 a 2 day week and so on, by the time they get upto £962, the franchisee will be working 4 days a week.

All of this is just based on domestic work, my commercial side is higher.

Contrary to what a lot might think of me, I don't move forward with anything untill I have all the facts, this franchising is a long term in the making, me and Ian was talking by phone, email and text for over 3 years before I have given it the green light.

Last year I was ready to start my first one, but something can up which needed it to be postponed, this has been recified and I am now in the position to start my first of many franchisees.

A potential franchisee has to be sure that all that I say will work, and for that reason I also offer a buy before you try, so for 4 weeks before they have parted with any money they will work with me, they will see their customers, they will clean their windows, they will see what I charge and earn per day, per week and per hour.

I will also show them aworka which has recorded every day I have worked for the last 12 months or more, to prove that I am not stacking all the work up into 1 month.

the next question they and others have asked is why franchise, why not expand with more staff and earn more.

There are 2 answers to this question, the first is Vat, the limit at the moment is £77k and then I lose 20% of my turnover minus what i can claim back, say 8%.

The other is getting the right staff, I have severe quality issues and even though you can get good workers, its not their business and they don't have the passion for it that I do, a franchisee is different, they have invested a lot of money, its their business now, so now they will have passion.

This is my thinking, will I get a franchisee, yes I will, will I get them to the level I said I will, yes I will, will I then expand into more franchisees then yes I will. will everyone believe this

NOT ON YOUR LIFE

these are the same people who said in a previous life that Christopher Columbus would fall off the edge of the world, when he went on his trip to the new world.

Do I care, not really because if they thought I was a "willy waver" before, imagine what I am going to be like when I get to franchise number 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 or even more, I will even pay for tv adverts just to p them off.

and Vanvest will be fun then, I do hope they have a very large van park ;D