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Silver Surfer

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Franchise
« on: September 18, 2012, 10:02:04 pm »
So who gonna be next to franchise....seems like everyone at it!! ;D

Erithwc

Re: Franchise
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2012, 10:24:17 pm »
Just because everyones at it don't mean they will make a sucess of it  ;) ;)

Infact it could kill their business which means more work for us  ;D ;D ;D

Paul

richywilts

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Re: Franchise
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2012, 11:11:56 pm »
ive considered it as ive been asked loads n loads by people if im a franchise, need to get my own business successful first tho
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

Re: Franchise
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2012, 08:53:56 am »
Just because everyones at it don't mean they will make a sucess of it  ;) ;)

Infact it could kill their business which means more work for us  ;D ;D ;D

Paul

its strange that, 10 years ago I heard they same comments about wfp and look where we are now with that ;D

Re: Franchise
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2012, 07:43:50 pm »
Just because everyones at it don't mean they will make a sucess of it  ;) ;)

Infact it could kill their business which means more work for us  ;D ;D ;D

Paul

its strange that, 10 years ago I heard they same comments about wfp and look where we are now with that ;D

Out of interest Pure Hydro how many franchisees do you have now or in the process of having?
Dan :)

at the moment I am looking for my first one, but I am having talks with 2 people at the moment, I want the first one by the end of october, but if thats not possible, then its employing another cleaner and another van on the road.

Erithwc

Re: Franchise
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2012, 08:05:47 pm »
Just because everyones at it don't mean they will make a sucess of it  ;) ;)

Infact it could kill their business which means more work for us  ;D ;D ;D

Paul

its strange that, 10 years ago I heard they same comments about wfp and look where we are now with that ;D

Yeah and the fact is some people get on with wfp and have no problems and some crash and burn.

Not every one that tries to make a big business get what they want its easy to get loads of customers but to run a large business with loads of vans can be harder then some people think.

The problem is alot of people see what the bigger established companys are doing and try to copy but it don't always work out.

Pure HYDRO Cleaners i hope things work out for your franchise but alot of people are great one man bands but just can't get their heads around getting bigger its down to personal choice and capabilitys.

Paul

Dani J

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Re: Franchise
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2012, 08:07:05 pm »
Just because everyones at it don't mean they will make a sucess of it  ;) ;)

Infact it could kill their business which means more work for us  ;D ;D ;D

Paul

its strange that, 10 years ago I heard they same comments about wfp and look where we are now with that ;D

Out of interest Pure Hydro how many franchisees do you have now or in the process of having?
Dan :)

at the moment I am looking for my first one, but I am having talks with 2 people at the moment, I want the first one by the end of october, but if thats not possible, then its employing another cleaner and another van on the road.


Out of interest, how much are you charging for your licence FEE?

Re: Franchise
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2012, 08:24:29 pm »
Just because everyones at it don't mean they will make a sucess of it  ;) ;)

Infact it could kill their business which means more work for us  ;D ;D ;D

Paul

its strange that, 10 years ago I heard they same comments about wfp and look where we are now with that ;D

Out of interest Pure Hydro how many franchisees do you have now or in the process of having?
Dan :)

at the moment I am looking for my first one, but I am having talks with 2 people at the moment, I want the first one by the end of october, but if thats not possible, then its employing another cleaner and another van on the road.


Out of interest, how much are you charging for your licence FEE?

I have 2 packages, both offer the same things regarding equipment and customers given, but in 2 price packages

the first one is £5000 for a commission return of 22.5% and £10000 with a commission of 20%

Dani J

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Re: Franchise
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2012, 08:32:13 pm »
Just because everyones at it don't mean they will make a sucess of it  ;) ;)

Infact it could kill their business which means more work for us  ;D ;D ;D

Paul

its strange that, 10 years ago I heard they same comments about wfp and look where we are now with that ;D

Out of interest Pure Hydro how many franchisees do you have now or in the process of having?
Dan :)

at the moment I am looking for my first one, but I am having talks with 2 people at the moment, I want the first one by the end of october, but if thats not possible, then its employing another cleaner and another van on the road.


Out of interest, how much are you charging for your licence FEE?

I have 2 packages, both offer the same things regarding equipment and customers given, but in 2 price packages

the first one is £5000 for a commission return of 22.5% and £10000 with a commission of 20%

That’s interesting £10,0000 for 20% is this the Ian Lancaster franchisee model ?
And is it cold water or Hot water system?

*Hector*

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Re: Franchise
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2012, 08:38:39 pm »
You seem to have done an awful lot of homework on members here Dani - only being here a short time yourself like  ;) ;)
Everyday this forum slips further from God.  :'(

Dave Willis

Re: Franchise
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2012, 08:43:48 pm »
Dani Ravie more like  ;D

Dani has Ian Lancasters franchise model if I remember correctly.

*Hector*

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Re: Franchise
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2012, 08:50:09 pm »
Dani Ravie more like  ;D

Dani has Ian Lancasters franchise model if I remember correctly.

 ;) ;D
Everyday this forum slips further from God.  :'(

Perfect Windows

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Re: Franchise
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2012, 08:51:35 pm »
In which case the answer must be Magica One Go!

Vin

Re: Franchise
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2012, 08:54:12 pm »
Just because everyones at it don't mean they will make a sucess of it  ;) ;)

Infact it could kill their business which means more work for us  ;D ;D ;D

Paul

its strange that, 10 years ago I heard they same comments about wfp and look where we are now with that ;D

Out of interest Pure Hydro how many franchisees do you have now or in the process of having?
Dan :)

at the moment I am looking for my first one, but I am having talks with 2 people at the moment, I want the first one by the end of october, but if thats not possible, then its employing another cleaner and another van on the road.


Out of interest, how much are you charging for your licence FEE?

I have 2 packages, both offer the same things regarding equipment and customers given, but in 2 price packages

the first one is £5000 for a commission return of 22.5% and £10000 with a commission of 20%

That’s interesting £10,0000 for 20% is this the Ian Lancaster franchisee model ?
And is it cold water or Hot water system?

yes it is modelled on Ians franchise deal, mine though has some different parts, for instance I also offer gutter and carpet cleaning as well, but these are at a extra package price.

the only main difference between me and Ian is the 20% and 22.5% rates

Dani J

  • Posts: 421
Re: Franchise
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2012, 09:15:50 pm »
Just because everyones at it don't mean they will make a sucess of it  ;) ;)

Infact it could kill their business which means more work for us  ;D ;D ;D

Paul

its strange that, 10 years ago I heard they same comments about wfp and look where we are now with that ;D

Out of interest Pure Hydro how many franchisees do you have now or in the process of having?
Dan :)

at the moment I am looking for my first one, but I am having talks with 2 people at the moment, I want the first one by the end of october, but if thats not possible, then its employing another cleaner and another van on the road.


Out of interest, how much are you charging for your licence FEE?

I have 2 packages, both offer the same things regarding equipment and customers given, but in 2 price packages

the first one is £5000 for a commission return of 22.5% and £10000 with a commission of 20%

That’s interesting £10,0000 for 20% is this the Ian Lancaster franchisee model ?
And is it cold water or Hot water system?

yes it is modelled on Ians franchise deal, mine though has some different parts, for instance I also offer gutter and carpet cleaning as well, but these are at a extra package price.

the only main difference between me and Ian is the 20% and 22.5% rates

That’s even more interesting, so if you offer gutter & carpet cleaning doesn’t it complicate things for you?

Mike55

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Re: Franchise
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2012, 10:05:28 pm »
Do people really buy franchises in window cleaning?  A relatively easy business to setup so why would someone buy into a franchise? 

gavinb

Re: Franchise
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2012, 10:12:14 pm »
Do people really buy franchises in window cleaning?  A relatively easy business to setup so why would someone buy into a franchise? 

Because they can't be arsed to get off there own arse and build the business themselves .
Stupid if you ask me instead of buying a franchise for 10k I'd rather start from scratch and build it myself !

davids3511

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Re: Franchise
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2012, 10:24:21 pm »
Do people really buy franchises in window cleaning?  A relatively easy business to setup so why would someone buy into a franchise? 
I have a franchisee. He went from a full time job working 60 hours a week to being my franchisee. In 6 months I have pulled in £4100 worth of work for him. He was earning a wage from the very first week. His first day saw him bring home cash and cheques.

He has 4 kids and a mortgage. He could not give up his job to become a window cleaner as he could never have built up that much work in such a short time and he couldn't window clean part time either because he was already doing 60 hours a week. Now he is doing 22 hours a week less for £200 a week more.

davids3511

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Re: Franchise
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2012, 10:26:33 pm »
Do people really buy franchises in window cleaning?  A relatively easy business to setup so why would someone buy into a franchise? 

Because they can't be arsed to get off there own arse and build the business themselves .
Stupid if you ask me instead of buying a franchise for 10k I'd rather start from scratch and build it myself !
If you are in a full time job and have financial commitments every month how are you going to manage it? There's only so much you can do on a saturday and so far you can get behind on your mortgage while trying to build a decent round.

Re: Franchise
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2012, 12:00:08 am »
Just because everyones at it don't mean they will make a sucess of it  ;) ;)

Infact it could kill their business which means more work for us  ;D ;D ;D

Paul

its strange that, 10 years ago I heard they same comments about wfp and look where we are now with that ;D

Out of interest Pure Hydro how many franchisees do you have now or in the process of having?
Dan :)

at the moment I am looking for my first one, but I am having talks with 2 people at the moment, I want the first one by the end of october, but if thats not possible, then its employing another cleaner and another van on the road.


Out of interest, how much are you charging for your licence FEE?

I have 2 packages, both offer the same things regarding equipment and customers given, but in 2 price packages

the first one is £5000 for a commission return of 22.5% and £10000 with a commission of 20%

That’s interesting £10,0000 for 20% is this the Ian Lancaster franchisee model ?
And is it cold water or Hot water system?

yes it is modelled on Ians franchise deal, mine though has some different parts, for instance I also offer gutter and carpet cleaning as well, but these are at a extra package price.

the only main difference between me and Ian is the 20% and 22.5% rates

That’s even more interesting, so if you offer gutter & carpet cleaning doesn’t it complicate things for you?

Not really, I have always cleaned carpets and have done so for the last 30 odd years on and off, Gutters was an extension from the window cleaning side, the same as solar panel cleaning is, which is part of the window cleaning package.

Over the years I have been tweaking my leaflets to reflect all the services that I offer, I now have come to one that gets a good response for all the services apart from solar panels (this is mainly due to the amount of propertys that have solar panels, compared to those with carpets and gutter)

at the moment I have 10k of leaflets going though the doors every week, I am looking for and will soon have a couple of salaried canvassers who will door knock after the leaflet drop to maximise the amount of customers in each area.

For those franchisees who take on the extras of gutter cleans or carpet cleaning will get an equal share of these customers, if they don't want those packages then my company will clean them.

the extra cost of these to the franchisees is mainly in the equipment and training costs, the carpet cleaning also comes with a NCCA training course.

The window cleaning equipment will be cold water, if they want hot, then they will need to pay for the extra cost for this equipment.

of course franchising is not for everyone, but it is an option to be up and running faster than you would if you are totally new to the trade, its also good for the ones who cannot wait the months it takes before you have a round that is generating a liveable wage.

and of course in 5 years if they want to break from franchising and go on their own, they will have the nessasary skills to get their own business up and running faster than a newbie.