[ben smith1234]

What idiot buys a van without viewing first. Sold as seen. Your own fault krave must have been waiting for a mug to buy van and you was it sadly.

yes mick kent he did take advantage. he knew i had my 7 month old son with me as we had nobody to look after him. how was i supposed to give the van a good looking over when little one was screaming due to waiting at a service station for over 2 hours!!

[ben smith1234]

sold as seen is not the case when you have knowingly hidden the knowlege about problems with the van

[MWC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QyVil0dwhk

[roundbuilder]

Well if your not happy go and batter him. I wouldnt let any1 mug me off like that. Im sorry to hear you made a big mistake not thourough checking, krave sounds a crook but sadly your also the mug who fell for it. Force your money back from him or wave goodbye to it. I know what id do!!!. Good luck

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

I would contact him & "ask" for your money back first before maybe taking legal advice/action.

[AuRavelling79]

i was only told about the 3 problems as said above,,,, parking sensor, heater control, paint miscoloured

Look Ben - I understand your angst but:-

Have you gone back to "KRAVE" and "explained your concerns and given him an opportunity to put things right?"

That is step one.

Step two depends on how step one turns out ...

[ben smith1234]

i have rang and txt him but with no answer or reply

[roundbuilder]

i have rang and txt him but with no answer or reply

Step 2 then... Send the boys round

[Gray1]

He did knock £300 off the price for something though! So what was the negotiation for that discount?

[ben smith1234]

also forgot to add ... he said he had to have the cylinder head fully reconditioned and the cylinder head was acid dipped.... what a load of b******s... the reciptes for the work on cylinder head could not be found anywhere

for £3500 for a 56plate with 112k on clock he said, was actually 115k

for the price im having to pay i could of got alot newer van

[KS Cleaning]

So Ben has been a bit naive and trusted a member on this site,the last thing he needs after probably losing a lot of dosh is to be told he is an idiot etc etc.

[ben smith1234]

he knocked £300 off because he was desperate to sell and i only had a budget of £3500

[p1w1]

surely you have his address from the log book, if it was me i would be taking a drive down there to confront him and if he's not going to play ball then look into what you can do legally and see where you stand.

[Dave Willis]

Hang on a minute, have I misread this (I do sometimes) but did you say the mot ran out in January last?

[gary999]

unfotunately i think you have just been dealt an expensive lesson.i hope you
get your money back!

[Roy Harding]

He is on line now.

Perhaps he will give his side.

This is his description.

I have some stuff from my window cleaning. Have not worked in ages due to illness and now selling all my old equipment.
Not sure on prices, Will have a look around and update thread. Hope this is not against rules. But offers or calls/texts are welcome.

I have 2 flojet pumps, and controllers.
2 x 100m 6mm i think hoses on reels.
1 x 350 litre tank. Had a whole, put a screw in it with some silicone, and was fine.
1 slx 25, 1 of gardiners cheaper mixed poles (cant rememebr model) (red in colour) 20ft i think.
40 40 ro, big pre filters and massive resin canister.
Will need new resin, was coming out at 2ppm, which would somehow drop to 0 once been sitting in tank.
 havent checked the ro condition, but was working fine until end of last year, not got a tds meter to check and like i say havent worked.
titan 3.5m double ladder,

email is kharnd@googlemail.com

phone is 07401565564 if you would like to text.

Also have a 56 reg renault trafic, 114000 miles. Fully rebuilt/recon head, water pump timing kit. This went on me 6 months ago. Done about 4000 miles since.

Van is nice, ply lines and wall carpeted in back. Think it had a almost full if not full service history, need to find paperwork.
mot jan, tax none.

very nice looking van, bar a slight respray on rear quarter. me being picky, not really noticeable, and the van does look v nice.

again call me if interested

3800 ono

[Dave Willis]

So they both drove a van with no tax, no mot and no doubt no insurance, Sorry, but all of a sudden - I couldn't care less  :

[Bay View WCS]

While in general the accepted unwritten rule is 'buyer beware' this has no basis in law. If you sell a vehicle whether privately or get it trade, the seller is obligated in law to ensure the vehicle is roadworthy (mot passable is the generally accepted definition although other factors do come into it) whether sold with an mot or not. Most of us, as we maybe have little knowledge of vehicles, rely on the honesty of the seller to inform us of problems (which they are obligated to do, it is there responsibility to know the exact condition of what they are selling and to give full disclosure of such.)
The following is part of the law...

'The Road Traffic Act makes it illegal for anyone to sell a car that is not roadworthy. This applies equally to private sellers and car dealers. Anyone who sells an unroadworthy car may be prosecuted and fined £5000. If you are found driving an unroadworthy car, you can also get points on your driving licence, and even be fined.
If you've been sold an unroadworthy car, you can get the seller to put the problem right. You can also report them to Trading Standards, who may take action against them.'

Look it up if you would like more info. I feel for you, I too have been ripped off (although I would not label krave with this term as I don't know him and his intent with regard to this) with a car I bought. I scrapped it as it wasn't an economical repair and I wasn't aware of my rights in law at the time.
You would have to have an engineer assess the vehicle and if shown to be unroadworthy you can take the seller to court although you first need to give the seller the opportunity to rectify the problems.
The 'buyer beware' principal is good in that it can save us a lot of trouble if we get the vehicle assessed before buying. Honest sellers will not usually mind the vehicle being looked over by a professional. Well worth paying a bit for a pro to look at it if spending a lot. If I'd payed 1000s then I'd take action to sort it out.

Sorry but the above.comment is absolute rubbish.  Please do not take any notice.

[richywilts]

take it your not going van fest to show your van off

sorry it looks like this guys had you mate i wouldnt know how to advise you but i know what i would certainly do id drive the van right thru his living room window and write it off and get your money back that way

[king marko]

Feel sorry for you chap no one likes to feel robbed   even if you should of taken someone with you and maybe gone at the weekend in the day?

I think a few on here have got the wrong end of the stick regarding the m.o.t?? It says on the ad - m.o.t Jan? To me that means it ends in Jan 2013??


Also, Think he's flogging a few bits on eBay (4040 etc..) search for 4040 RO - might be able to get hold him that way??