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Tony Edwards

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Best R/O system ?
« on: August 24, 2012, 03:46:04 pm »


Just purchased a Gardiner CLx22 and back pack.

I now need a RO set up. TDs is 340. Looking to produce 300-400 gallons per day . Prob need a resin tank as well.

Any advice on best product and best supplier cost and quality wise. Been told to avoid Merlin.

Thanks

Tony Edwards

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Re: Best R/O system ?
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2012, 03:48:42 pm »


Meant to say this will be in a garage not a van or trolley mount

Re: Best R/O system ?
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2012, 04:13:17 pm »
my friend you want a 450gpd ro system, it should be fast enough for you, if it isnt a booster pump will double its speed, you will definatly need a di vessel as well, there is no reason to get anything expensive here, buy whats called a di polishing unit for about £30

Tony Edwards

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Re: Best R/O system ?
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2012, 04:16:08 pm »


Thnaks

Where would you recommend I buy it ?


PurefectWindowCleaning

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Re: Best R/O system ?
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2012, 04:59:51 pm »
I have one for sale.

Check the for sale section

Nick Wareham

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Re: Best R/O system ?
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2012, 05:11:47 pm »
My advice is... get something better than a little 300-450 gallon per day unit, they just aren't man enough for the task of window cleaning.  It might be enough for the work you have now, but in no time you'll be needing more.

There's nothing worse than having to ration out your water, schedule the work according to how much can be produced etc etc etc.  Its best to spend a couple hundred more and have an ample supply that can be produced quickly and will still be useful when you have more work.  Much better.

You really need a 4040 RO unit, preferably with a HF5 membrane.  This will set you back about £430 plus you'll need a couple of prefilters for it for about £130.  Resin vessel on top of that probably about another £50.

All told a proper setup for about £600.  I'm sure that's quite a bit more than you had in mind, but trust me its worth getting the proper kit straight off than fannying around with smaller bits and bobs and then trying to add other things on later.  I know a few lads who've done that and without fail they all say they ended up spending more than if they'd just got the proper stuff first-off, and it's been a pain in the neck.  

Whack it on a credit card and treat it like its an investment.  All tax deductible too of course.

Just my humble opinion

ben M

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Re: Best R/O system ?
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2012, 05:33:09 pm »
My advice is... get something better than a little 300-450 gallon per day unit, they just aren't man enough for the task of window cleaning.  It might be enough for the work you have now, but in no time you'll be needing more.

There's nothing worse than having to ration out your water, schedule the work according to how much can be produced etc etc etc.  Its best to spend a couple hundred more and have an ample supply that can be produced quickly and will still be useful when you have more work.  Much better.

You really need a 4040 RO unit, preferably with a HF5 membrane.  This will set you back about £430 plus you'll need a couple of prefilters for it for about £130.  Resin vessel on top of that probably about another £50.

All told a proper setup for about £600.  I'm sure that's quite a bit more than you had in mind, but trust me its worth getting the proper kit straight off than fannying around with smaller bits and bobs and then trying to add other things on later.  I know a few lads who've done that and without fail they all say they ended up spending more than if they'd just got the proper stuff first-off, and it's been a pain in the neck.  

Whack it on a credit card and treat it like its an investment.  All tax deductible too of course.

Just my humble opinion
totally agree except the credit card if you can avoid  ;)

Scrimble

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Tony Edwards

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Re: Best R/O system ?
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2012, 07:26:45 pm »
My advice is... get something better than a little 300-450 gallon per day unit, they just aren't man enough for the task of window cleaning.  It might be enough for the work you have now, but in no time you'll be needing more.

There's nothing worse than having to ration out your water, schedule the work according to how much can be produced etc etc etc.  Its best to spend a couple hundred more and have an ample supply that can be produced quickly and will still be useful when you have more work.  Much better.

You really need a 4040 RO unit, preferably with a HF5 membrane.  This will set you back about £430 plus you'll need a couple of prefilters for it for about £130.  Resin vessel on top of that probably about another £50.

All told a proper setup for about £600.  I'm sure that's quite a bit more than you had in mind, but trust me its worth getting the proper kit straight off than fannying around with smaller bits and bobs and then trying to add other things on later.  I know a few lads who've done that and without fail they all say they ended up spending more than if they'd just got the proper stuff first-off, and it's been a pain in the neck.  

Whack it on a credit card and treat it like its an investment.  All tax deductible too of course.

Just my humble opinion



And best supplier ?

Fin Clearview

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Re: Best R/O system ?
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2012, 07:38:14 pm »
Also totally agree with the above re 300gpd ro. Within the last month i bought one from pure freedom, i suppose it works well usually but due to me not realising water pressure makes a huge difference to the productivity of the ro and that my pressure is below average it doesn't produce quick enough, and how much water i would use on initial cleans as i am in transition from trad to wfp. I wish id gone for the 4040 with booster.

Tony Edwards

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Re: Best R/O system ?
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2012, 09:08:46 pm »
Cheers guy

But no one recommending where to buy it

Spruce

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Re: Best R/O system ?
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2012, 09:28:08 pm »
GAPS water or Pure Freedom.

IMHO, Purefreedom sell a fully setup system on a frame - no messing around trying to work out how to put it together. They also include 20" prefilters whereas the basic kit of GAPS has 10" prefilters. To compare apples with apples, Purefreedom also put resin in the DI Vessel, so when comparing prices you need to add the cost of resin to the GAPs unit as well as a DI Vessel. However, Pure Freedom do charge more for an HF5 membrane.

You can save around £120 if you buy the components separately, but trust me, its not worth the extra hassle of sourcing components.

The 4040 is a big beast, so make sure you have some place that can accommodate it. Especially consider how you are going to get it warm over winter.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

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windiewasher

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Re: Best R/O system ?
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2012, 10:46:37 pm »
300 to 400 gallons a day?what you got a hgv?lots of bottles needed for your backpack.lol
About 80 x 25 litre bottles.about 100 houses a day.
Takings off all first cleans till march 7th 2014
October  total=  cleaned  extra per month
November = cleaned extra per month
Total £  so far.

Nick Wareham

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Re: Best R/O system ?
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2012, 11:51:08 pm »
The pure freedom set up is too expensive if you ask me (£945 inc vat), and its with a HF4 not HF5.  You really need HF5 because they work better in low pressure.

The Gaps water "Kit" is not bad, £628 inc vat, no IBC holding tank like the purefreedom, but if you needed one they are easy to get hold of, they do not cost £317, and 1,000 litres is a little big for most people.

David Salkeld

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Re: Best R/O system ?
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2012, 12:02:04 am »
Take a look at this:

http://www.pozzani.co.uk/water-filters-363/product_info.html

I got one and it produces ample water for us:

2 working, using 500ltrs a day

Call me on 07815106363 for any advice
Pozzani are in my town

David
Good Honest Service

David Salkeld

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Re: Best R/O system ?
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2012, 12:03:31 am »
Also I can advise on Backpack use

David
Good Honest Service

Re: Best R/O system ?
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2012, 04:13:30 am »
This is the one I use and 3 years I am still using I started with backpak and have moved to 350 van system and it still keeps as its a pumped and double pumped unit its works very well>Replacement ro membranes are also a good price.The seller, John is also very helpful if you need help as he is also a window cleaner.Call him his number is in site.

http://www.johnhewitt.com/ro.htm

Tony Edwards

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Re: Best R/O system ?
« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2012, 08:56:00 am »
What is this HF5 everybody mentions ?

What does it do ?

Thanks for all your advice

Cliff perkins

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Re: Best R/O system ?
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2012, 09:08:37 am »
I have a merlin 720 for sale if you want it.
Might need new filters though as hasnt been used couple months
Www.1stglasswindowcleaning.co.uk