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PurefectWindowCleaning

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Re: Unreasonable??
« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2012, 04:53:39 pm »
I have about 10% to 15% outstanding at any one time. So if it's about that, I wouldn't worry. So long as they pay by the next clean. To get your set up this far, you need more customers than you have at the moment. If you had enough customers, you wouldn't have a cash flow "problem". So the best way to solve any problems with this game is put more customers in your business.

If you can put one customer in, you can put another one in and so on and so on. Keep doing this untill you can't keep on top of your work, then get rid of the customers that pay too late or not at all. Then carry on putting customers into your business.

Notice a pattern here?


He could very well have a full customer list, but still has bad cash flow which is effecting repayments to loan company to fund buying the round.

He could need all the money he can get because van blew up?

... notice a pattern here?

C o z y

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Re: Unreasonable??
« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2012, 05:06:43 pm »
I have about 10% to 15% outstanding at any one time. So if it's about that, I wouldn't worry. So long as they pay by the next clean. To get your set up this far, you need more customers than you have at the moment. If you had enough customers, you wouldn't have a cash flow "problem". So the best way to solve any problems with this game is put more customers in your business.

If you can put one customer in, you can put another one in and so on and so on. Keep doing this untill you can't keep on top of your work, then get rid of the customers that pay too late or not at all. Then carry on putting customers into your business.

Notice a pattern here?


He could very well have a full customer list, but still has bad cash flow which is effecting repayments to loan company to fund buying the round.

He could need all the money he can get because van blew up?

... notice a pattern here?

Did I say something to upset you? Why labour a point? I wasn't trying to be funny as you can see from our discussion after that post.
Let's look at your point. Van blows up, great example by the way. A well stocked business has enough of a good customer base to be able to replace monthly payments for a replacement vehicle.

Without going into more examples, if you have enough customers and are at full stretch to keep up, at what point do you expect to still have a cash flow problem.

The problems on this forum start, when members seem to think that the number of posts a person has made has some relation to how long they've been in this business. It's a thing called "forum snobbery" and effects members with low self esteem and who feel that post count means some sort of wisdom or some such garbage.

That can't be the case with you surely?

When do you think a business can have too many customers, or when would cash flow still be a problem, apart from a vehicle exploding?

Not really interested in your answer, so don't rush. I think Steve got enough answers to help him with his challenge. Not from you though eh?

No still don't understand, I must be thick

PurefectWindowCleaning

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Re: Unreasonable??
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2012, 05:12:57 pm »
I was simply highlighting the fact that just because he has cash flow issue's, does not necessarily mean that he needs to gain more customers.

Hard day at Work Howard?

 ;D

magic moments

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Re: Unreasonable??
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2012, 05:17:31 pm »
You deserve an apology there James,think he misread the reply lol.

C o z y

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Re: Unreasonable??
« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2012, 05:19:21 pm »
What happened to your witty "Notice a pattern here" ?

I'll write this next bit slowly because you seem to only be able to answer one point at a time.

If you gain more customers, this means more money is produced in your business.

This means, even if some are slow to pay, because of the now greater volume of customers in your business, you now have more money to move around, in your example, to replace an exploding vehicle.

Perhaps you could explain how there is absolutely no gain in increasing a customer base? If he increased his customer base, some would be likely to be better payers than some of the customers he has at the moment, but even if they weren't, he'd have more money going through his business. What problem (Apart from Illness) can't more money solve?

Do you now see what I'm trying to point out here?

No still don't understand, I must be thick

C o z y

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Re: Unreasonable??
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2012, 05:20:35 pm »
By the way, I don't have "Hard days at work". That's why I'm self-employed. I would've thought that's one of the points of being self-employed.
No still don't understand, I must be thick

Ian101

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Re: Unreasonable??
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2012, 05:22:02 pm »
well ive got more posts than you so there .... guess that makes me a snob ..... or a lazy barstool for posting instead of working or a sad git for wasting time on here .... or all 3 .... or who cares .. ;D


forums are like texting the ex missus sometimes ... slightest thing can be taken wrong way and WW3 breaks out except my ex is a right cow where im sure all of us are nice people really. :)

bobplum

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Re: Unreasonable??
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2012, 05:22:07 pm »
I basically offer 3 ways to pay your bill, cash, cheque and online. The cheques and online payments are taking way too long, despite requesting for payments to be made within 7 days of receiving your windows cleaned slip, I am therefore thinking of changing it too "We kindly request that your payment is made within 3 days of receiving your windows cleaned slip" Is this an unreasonable amount of time to expect a customer to pay their bill??

STANDING ORDERS

Ian101

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Re: Unreasonable??
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2012, 05:22:49 pm »
I basically offer 3 ways to pay your bill, cash, cheque and online. The cheques and online payments are taking way too long, despite requesting for payments to be made within 7 days of receiving your windows cleaned slip, I am therefore thinking of changing it too "We kindly request that your payment is made within 3 days of receiving your windows cleaned slip" Is this an unreasonable amount of time to expect a customer to pay their bill??

STANDING ORDERS

mmmmm so predictable  ;D  ;)

PurefectWindowCleaning

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Re: Unreasonable??
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2012, 05:34:59 pm »
Right Howard...

HE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CUSTOMERS, AS HE'S FULLY BOOKED.

HE MIGHT BE OWED A LARGE PROPORTION OF HIS MONTHLY INCOME, THUS CAUSING A CASH FLOW PROBLEM.

HE MIGHT NEED THIS OUTSTANDING MONEY OWED TO HIM TO MAKE A LOAN REPAYMENT.


HE NOW HAS A FULLY BOOKED BUSINESS WITH A CASH FLOW PROBLEM!



C o z y

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Re: Unreasonable??
« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2012, 05:37:07 pm »
Try not to shout, makes you look angry and unable to get a point across. If you have a full round, you don't have these problems. When you reach that stage with your business, I'm sure you'll find this easier to understand.

Had a "Hard day at work" ?
No still don't understand, I must be thick

C o z y

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Re: Unreasonable??
« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2012, 05:40:16 pm »
By the way, please don't think I'm ignoring any reply you may think up in the next hour or so, but I'm off out for a bit. I promise to read anything you manage to scrape out the bottom of that barrel you seem to have. So your brain won't have strained for nothing.

Nearly forgot the smiley there  

 :)
No still don't understand, I must be thick

PurefectWindowCleaning

  • Posts: 2303
Re: Unreasonable??
« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2012, 05:41:18 pm »
Try not to shout, makes you look angry and unable to get a point across. If you have a full round, you don't have these problems. When you reach that stage with your business, I'm sure you'll find this easier to understand.

Had a "Hard day at work" ?


... your still failing to get the point.


Oh, and yes I have had a hard day at work, every day is hard for me... because IM AT THAT STAGE IN BUSINESS where I have a fully booked round that requires flat out working to stay up to date, not that I mind, because it means I can wipe I disagree with twenty pound notes.

simon sturmey

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Re: Unreasonable??
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2012, 06:36:42 pm »
quality lol  ;D

evo

Re: Unreasonable??
« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2012, 07:03:53 pm »
i stopped cheques all together about a month ago and all i take now is cash i have had no problems at all after telling customers why and they said they under stand so i am well happy.

wouldnt you have to do alot of collecting tho???




no mate i bet i only collect around 10 customers a week that all and that's only on really busy weeks.

C o z y

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Re: Unreasonable??
« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2012, 09:23:44 am »
Try not to shout mate, it's only a forum. Anyway, Simon seems to be impressed with your boasting. Now take a short nap in the afternoon before you come on here to have a pop at members who you seem to think are somehow lesser mortals than you because you have a higher post count. This post count seems to have been built up over a period of time by someone like you, even though you've got a "fully booked round that requires flat out working to stay up to date,". After your willy waving, you still manage to come on here and do all this shouting and aggressive posturing.

No wonder your friend Simon, is impressed. Anyway, thanks for your impressive in-put to the forum. Without you, we'd be lost.

By the way, try typing using your fingers in future, and not your forehead eh?
No still don't understand, I must be thick

Tony Edwards

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Re: Unreasonable??
« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2012, 09:38:25 am »
In the words of Harry hill

" fight, fight"

Re: Unreasonable??
« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2012, 09:48:39 am »
Come on kids its time for dinner and a little growing up to do.

C o z y

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Re: Unreasonable??
« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2012, 10:05:19 am »
In the words of Harry hill

" fight, fight"

Good point, I forgot the smiley didn't I !!  ;)
No still don't understand, I must be thick

Erithwc

Re: Unreasonable??
« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2012, 12:33:08 pm »
It keeps rising, thats the problem, cash flow is a big problem!!!

Did you go door knocking for your work mate  ???

Paul