[john martin]

Thanks for all the replys guys going to have a look tonight on ebay and other site dont fancy payin £250 again once again cheers
  

         Gavin

The first  ebay link i posted seems to sold out for now , although they may relist quickly  ...  
This one is similar ..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vacuum-MOTOR-ASSEMBLY-3-Stage-Tangential-1500W-240V-265-/350235934291?pt=UK_Vacuum_Cleaner_Bags_Parts&hash=item518bb03e53

You can just about make out ' made in italy ' on the sticker
Unfortunately the pic does not show the underneath , so i cant see if it has the vac connection , hako tube , you could contact him to conform , i got mine off this seller so he does stock them ' with tube '   the ones without just sit on a manifold , but the extracta needs a tube .
Im not sure of the origin of the ebay vacs with the white opaque plastic covers and plastic horn , so i would stick with these ones .
and make sure u order correct voltage 240 and 1500w as there are a few variations out there .

[AJB]

I've had 2 of these
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vacuum-MOTOR-ASSEMBLY-3-Stage-Tangential-1500W-240V-265-/350235934291?pt=UK_Vacuum_Cleaner_Bags_Parts&hash=item518bb03e53

They were good motors for the 2 months they lasted, they have
a thermostic protection swith wired into them, which kept cutting
off on my Powrflite. The point of the perfect heat system is that
it runs the vac motors hotter to use the heat, so they were crap
on my machine. But with good cooling they may be alright.
They also drew 1700w  with no load.

[john martin]

What do think  actually killed them in the end ?
you would think the powerflite could have external duct hoses going to the motor intake , and perhaps directing the hot output back towards the coils ?

[Adam Fearnley]

Yea I'd like to know what happened to it, I've just bought one

[Paul Redden Countryfresh]

i would only trust ebay vacs from accessory planet 

[M.Acorn]

i would only trust ebay vacs from accessory planet

Same here, he has only just re listed them over the last couple of days, did e mail him asking him why he didn't have any listed, like to keep a spare one on my van, only has about 3 left, there are all metal construction, rather than cheap plastic

[AJB]

The ones i had the windings burnt out.
Usually buy 117123s from accessory planet also.

[john martin]

 But its a bit like saying i dont trust hondas from swindon ... i want one made in Japan
 there may be regional model spec differences but they are all honda .    

and these motors are all Ametek  ,  im dammed if i will pay accessory planet 130 for the mexican 5.7 , especially as the 6.6 is only 10 more , id shoehorn that instead .

The Ametek Italia model for £55 is worth a punt ,  and while its worth noting AJBs experience ,  you would need more user reports to form an opinion on reliability ...

it may last well under conditions allowing adequate cooling , like this alltec elite with the silver duct allowing it the breath external air , or in models with motor top mounted up against a sidewall  hole .

http://www.google.ie/imgres?um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1024&bih=471&tbm=isch&tbnid=B3g9e6P65dh9IM:&imgrefurl=http://www.jccarpet.com/sandia/sniper.html&docid=ZI9BciantEe2HM&imgurl=http://www.jccarpet.com/sandia/images/sniper.gif&
w=611&h=501&ei=7_XpT-nfCIa2hAf-puX6DA&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=607&sig=115711998757526889568&page=1&tbnh=127&tbnw=153&start=0&ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:69&tx=77&ty=53

  

[Jamie Pearson]

 But its a bit like saying i dont trust hondas from swindon ... i want one made in Japan
 there may be regional model spec differences but they are all honda .   

and these motors are all Ametek  ,  im dammed if i will pay accessory planet 130 for the mexican 5.7 , especially as the 6.6 is only 10 more , id shoehorn that instead .

The Ametek Italia model for £55 is worth a punt ,  and while its worth noting AJBs experience ,  you would need more user reports to form an opinion on reliability ...

it may last well under conditions allowing adequate cooling , like this alltec elite with the silver duct allowing it the breath external air , or in models with motor top mounted up against a sidewall  hole .

http://www.google.ie/imgres?um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1024&bih=471&tbm=isch&tbnid=B3g9e6P65dh9IM:&imgrefurl=http://www.jccarpet.com/sandia/sniper.html&docid=ZI9BciantEe2HM&imgurl=http://www.jccarpet.com/sandia/images/sniper.gif&w=611&h=501&ei=7_XpT-nfCIa2hAf-puX6DA&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=607&sig=115711998757526889568&page=1&tbnh=127&tbnw=153&start=0&ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:69&tx=77&ty=53

 

the JDM spec EP3 civics manufactured in Swindon had higher quality control than those released to the UK market.

[john martin]

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the JDM spec EP3 civics manufactured in Swindon had higher quality control than those released to the UK market.
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They exported back to Japan ? i had no idea 
bet they got all the extras too !

[Alan falconer]

We have a customer with an Extracta machine that eats vac motors. He came to one after Extracta had fitted one and he thought he was being ripped off by them (his words) we fitted a replacement and it lasted about the same amount of time. We then found out that there was a bad batch of 7.2's and reckon both us and Extracta get them from the same supplier. We have now fitted a 5.7" for him and it's been in there almost a year now.

Just wondering can you upgrade the extracta cx vacs to something with a bit more like the exel....

[john martin]

We have a customer with an Extracta machine that eats vac motors. He came to one after Extracta had fitted one and he thought he was being ripped off by them (his words) we fitted a replacement and it lasted about the same amount of time. We then found out that there was a bad batch of 7.2's and reckon both us and Extracta get them from the same supplier. We have now fitted a 5.7" for him and it's been in there almost a year now.

Just wondering can you upgrade the extracta cx vacs to something with a bit more like the exel....

Lots you could do depending on your ability  ...  you have a single 7.2 vac  , defiantly worth upgrading to twin vac for drying times and longer hose runs .

If your 7.2 vac in good condition you could find space to mount a 5.7 and play around with either connecting it to the 7.2 vacs discharge increasing your vacuum lift ... or putting a 'Y' splitter from the 7.2s vac input to the 5.7 increasing your airflow .
the second vac could do with its own on/off switch ... should be room on the switch panel to mount a small toggle ... or if you dont use the switch that turns on the scrubba socket  you could utilize that ...

[Kinver_Clean]

Mismatching motors is asking for trouble.

[john martin]

Mismatching motors is asking for trouble.

 No mismatch       
 The 7.2 three stage has around 135" lift  and 100 cfm  , same or very close to the 5.7
 

[gr cleaning solutions]

just an update , backend of last week pop into see an local motor repair shop he told me that my motor wasnt worth repairing as it wouldnt last long before it would go again . He ordered me the same vac motor so dont have to mess about making brackets and stuff £165 all in a lot cheaper than extracta ive just got to fit it now cheers for all the help and links and big thanks to john from aqua clean for the phone call and chat

[Kinver_Clean]

On a 7.2" vac unit-- Keep a rough note of the hours run. Check the brushes after 400 hrs. Some last considerably longer but some are worn out at the time.
They are easy to change and will make the motor last almost indefinitely if looked after.

[CleanerCarpets]

John - just to revive this thread - are these the motors you think are ok off ebay? -

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tangential-3-Stage-1500-Watt-Ametek-Lamb-Vacuum-Cleaner-Motor-Assembly-/310588345023

[john martin]

John - just to revive this thread - are these the motors you think are ok off ebay? -

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tangential-3-Stage-1500-Watt-Ametek-Lamb-Vacuum-Cleaner-Motor-Assembly-/310588345023

Yes      but then again ,   they seem to have not worked out well for others , so i would consider them a good punt for the price  ...
The Mexican version is not a whole lot more .. so perhaps just go for those .
http://www.carpetcleanersstore.co.uk/category/motors

or depending on the machine ... Alltec are selling the HD Electro 5.7 on its site .

[CleanerCarpets]

its for a Scorpion triple vac

I used it yesterday and thought i could smell a faint burn when i switched it off. This morning when i turned one of the motors on the RCD tripped. I switched plugs thinking it maybe the customer electrics and the vac went on. Then when i came to turn the machine off again i could smell the same thing.

Thinking one of the motors could be on its way out, i took the tanks off when i got home and the one of the motors isnt turning on at all - the switch for it lights up but there is nothing at all happening with the motor. I swapped the switch to see if it was that but it still isnt coming on and the switch light still powers on. I am wondering if the motor blew completely whilst i was doing the job this morning and i didnt hear it blow as the machine was outside.

Can the motors blow completely so they dont turn on? I was expecting it to make nasty noises etc when it goes - not power off completely.

[CleanerCarpets]

PS - anyone tried these? -

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251485204238?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT