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COLIN BRIGHT

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Re: having a go at a flyer !!!!!
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2006, 07:15:11 pm »
HOW BIG IS THE CARPET YOU'RE CLEANING FOR £10.00?

COME TO THAT WHAT SORT OF UPHOLSTERY DO YUO DO FOR A TENNER?

DO YOU HAVE A MINIMUM CHARGE

like the flyer though!

the red carpet

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Re: having a go at a flyer !!!!!
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2006, 04:47:14 pm »
James,

Im designing a new flyer at the minute and want to use somthing like those little eye things youv got on it.
where did you get them please?
and how can i get hold of them?
is there anyway i can use them in word do you know?

Daniel

Spot On cleaning

  • Posts: 478
Re: having a go at a flyer !!!!!
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2006, 05:48:48 pm »
Regarding printers,

The colour lasers are okay on price, but will get you on 4 colour toners at approx
£50 + vat each, and with 4 to but it's a lot of money. When you first buy one as well, the toners are not full on a lot of them so you have to replace quicker.

Go for ink and refill. I have been doing it for a few years. Don't worry if your cartridges have chips on them. Buy a zapper from jr ink, or better still there are certain printers that use six cartridges that can be run direct from large ink bottles fed by tubes into the top of the cartridges, and each cartridge is doctored so it thinks it's always full up.

Professionals who print a lot of digital photos tend to use this system.

Dave

therapist

Re: having a go at a flyer !!!!!
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2006, 06:38:55 pm »
With prices like that, your phone will ring non stop, but, you will need to do an awful lot of jobs to make a living

I was charging more than that 20 years ago and I was not expensive. With a rig like that, you have to project yor running costs, including dapreciation and servicing over 12 months, with a write off over around 5 years.

Work tha t out and find out what you need to take in BEFORE you earn a penny.

rob m

Ian Gourlay

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Re: having a go at a flyer !!!!!
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2006, 10:19:44 pm »
Dave,

How do you know if you can tube feed  cants see how it would work as cartridges move.

Not saying it cant be done as I have heard of it before.

Also do you know suppliers

Kinver_Clean

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Re: having a go at a flyer !!!!!
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2006, 08:21:18 am »
Long floppy tubes!
God must love stupid people---He made so many.

Spot On cleaning

  • Posts: 478
Re: having a go at a flyer !!!!!
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2006, 05:18:05 pm »
Ian,

Continous ink systems

If you type the words continous ink systems into your search engine,you will get the result you want.

The one system is Lysus, i think which can convert Epson printers R800 and R1800.As stated earlier the ink is fed through soft tubing straight to each cartridge. There are a few companies that provide this service. I am not sure of the cost, but for long term high capacity printing it must be worth while.

I think Epson printers are the only one to allow a conversion to be made. I think it has something to do with the inside, otherwise as you pointed out, they would jam up inside.

Dave

BRSL

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Re: having a go at a flyer !!!!!
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2006, 10:32:30 pm »
Colin £10 of carpet = at least 50 units, lounge and trafic lanes in bedrooms about 10sqm
         £10 of upholstery = arms and base cushion spotting

Therapist 30 units a day at £20 a unit at least 6 dasy a week im happy with that, but my phone aint ringing under cut again  :o :o

Daniel I use a seriff web page program and cut and paste alot with adobe elements 2

James

PS still not sure about the printer
W - www.brsl.co.nz
E - james@brsl.co.nz

Kind regards James C

Re: having a go at a flyer !!!!!
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2006, 09:04:57 pm »
James:

As a caravan park owner myself: see  www.secretgardencaravans.co.uk  I offer the following advice:

Approach the caravan park manager first: if you offer to clean his stock caravans / rental fleet / office for free, he might well promote your services enthusiastically.

Don't forget, caravan parks are private property, and you may well need permission from the owner / manager before you go on to the park, and almost certainly before you distribute leaflets (we completely ban any leafleting or canvassing and only allow tradesmen who we have approved on to the park).

You may be asked to pay a commission to the Park (after all, Calor Gas, the Insurance companies and the caravan dealers all pay us a commission), but you may well be able to pay "in kind" (if you make me your approved cleaner I will do the carpets in your office / club / display caravans free) instead.

Caravan Parks are a well organised industry, we all chat regularly at trade association meetings, exhibitions, etc. Get it wrong on one park (like drive your truck-mount over the grass and leave wheel ruts) and you may well find yourself banned from every park in the area.

Don't say "they can't do that to me, it's a free country, I promise you we certainly can:  We banned one business for driving on the grass (might sound petty, but it took 3 days work to repair the damage, he then took us to court for "loss of business", we counterclaimed for property damage, we won.)

Get it right, however, and you will find that your name will get passed from Park to Park and much work may come. There are many businesses who specialise in services to caravan parks, many of these become associate members of the trade association BHHPA  (look at www.bhhpa.org.uk  and  www.ukparks.com )

With only 43 caravans we are quite a small park, however, we always pressure wash all caravans twice a year (unless the caravan owner does it themself with a sponge and bucket) and that brings us £4000 a year (with a petrol pressure washer fitted to a trailer we pull behind a golf buggy (turf tyres don't damage the grass!)

I know many site owners with upwards of 300 caravans on their parks. Now if they recommend you to their customers, that's quite a few weeks work!

Your truckmount wouldn't go well on my park, like many others we have height and width restrictions (to prevent theft of touring caravans, to keep "travellers" out and to keep the car park for cars) and you would need very long hoses (up to 200 ft) to reach caravans from the car park.

Don't forget, many caravan parks have a limited electricity supply, so a large machine may well blow fuses. You might well only have 6 amps to play with.

If I were aiming to specialise in caravan cleaning (and indeed I am thinking about it) my dream kit would be a Prochem "steempro" in the back of a small van like a Berlingo. Add to this a 3kw petrol generator for power when needed. If I can park right by the caravan, I could leave the "steempro" in the van, otherwise I could trundle it to the caravan. Add extension leads and a sack truck for the generator, and we are there.

Funny enough, I've got a second hand"steempro" and a new generator in the caravan park stores; and I've just given my site warden a new Berlingo to replace his old (but still immaculate) Escort Van. So maybe I now have to go and get some contracts and employ someone to do the hard work!

PS:  never say "caravan site", always "caravan park"..... it's like calling a CC a "splash-n-dash"!

jsm

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Re: having a go at a flyer !!!!!
« Reply #29 on: March 11, 2006, 10:26:51 pm »
James:

As a caravan park owner myself: see  www.secretgardencaravans.co.uk  I offer the following advice:

Approach the caravan park manager first: if you offer to clean his stock caravans / rental fleet / office for free, he might well promote your services enthusiastically.

Don't forget, caravan parks are private property, and you may well need permission from the owner / manager before you go on to the park, and almost certainly before you distribute leaflets (we completely ban any leafleting or canvassing and only allow tradesmen who we have approved on to the park).

You may be asked to pay a commission to the Park (after all, Calor Gas, the Insurance companies and the caravan dealers all pay us a commission), but you may well be able to pay "in kind" (if you make me your approved cleaner I will do the carpets in your office / club / display caravans free) instead.

Caravan Parks are a well organised industry, we all chat regularly at trade association meetings, exhibitions, etc. Get it wrong on one park (like drive your truck-mount over the grass and leave wheel ruts) and you may well find yourself banned from every park in the area.

Don't say "they can't do that to me, it's a free country, I promise you we certainly can:  We banned one business for driving on the grass (might sound petty, but it took 3 days work to repair the damage, he then took us to court for "loss of business", we counterclaimed for property damage, we won.)

Get it right, however, and you will find that your name will get passed from Park to Park and much work may come. There are many businesses who specialise in services to caravan parks, many of these become associate members of the trade association BHHPA  (look at www.bhhpa.org.uk  and  www.ukparks.com )

With only 43 caravans we are quite a small park, however, we always pressure wash all caravans twice a year (unless the caravan owner does it themself with a sponge and bucket) and that brings us £4000 a year (with a petrol pressure washer fitted to a trailer we pull behind a golf buggy (turf tyres don't damage the grass!)

I know many site owners with upwards of 300 caravans on their parks. Now if they recommend you to their customers, that's quite a few weeks work!

Your truckmount wouldn't go well on my park, like many others we have height and width restrictions (to prevent theft of touring caravans, to keep "travellers" out and to keep the car park for cars) and you would need very long hoses (up to 200 ft) to reach caravans from the car park.

Don't forget, many caravan parks have a limited electricity supply, so a large machine may well blow fuses. You might well only have 6 amps to play with.

If I were aiming to specialise in caravan cleaning (and indeed I am thinking about it) my dream kit would be a Prochem "steempro" in the back of a small van like a Berlingo. Add to this a 3kw petrol generator for power when needed. If I can park right by the caravan, I could leave the "steempro" in the van, otherwise I could trundle it to the caravan. Add extension leads and a sack truck for the generator, and we are there.

Funny enough, I've got a second hand"steempro" and a new generator in the caravan park stores; and I've just given my site warden a new Berlingo to replace his old (but still immaculate) Escort Van. So maybe I now have to go and get some contracts and employ someone to do the hard work!

PS:  never say "caravan site", always "caravan park"..... it's like calling a CC a "splash-n-dash"!

Some good info there Andrew - I got a call to clean a caravan last week , I was a bit worried about the power tripping as the Ninja has a bit of a thirst for the juice .

Two days after they phoned to cancel as the site was going to replace the caravan -  so they no longer need the carpets cleaned .......  ;D
John Malone
JSM. Window & General Cleaning
(  North Wales  )
Giving homes a shine sicne 1989

one of the early gang of wfp er's ---- remember , when you cant see out - give JSM a shout

Alan Brooker. Aqualink Carpet Care

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Re: having a go at a flyer !!!!!
« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2006, 11:18:07 pm »
Flyer seems good. Chop out the prices!!!!! Use some photo's that REALLY show what you're capable of cleaning. Get a pack of dogs out in a muddy field, throw water at them then call them into the caravan for din dins..... Then put a clean line in the carpet and get a photo of it! ;D

Alan
Experience does not qualify as Knowledge and Understanding.
Understand how and why and you'll produce great results.

IICRC, Woolsafe, Fenice & LTT trained.
Member of Eco Carpet Care, NCCA & Woolsafe.

BRSL

  • Posts: 660
Re: having a go at a flyer !!!!!
« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2006, 08:53:39 pm »
Thanks for the advice guys, Andrew you run a pretty tight PARK id be scared to go on holiday there let alone do some cleaning  ;D ;D ;D Joking aside some very good advice there thanks It all helps,

PS ive got 400ft of hose on my van so no worries, and ill clean your office for FREE  ;) ;)

Well I landed two parks this year from that flyer this year but put it out well too late, People are checking in now from March so next year im starting my advertising in Jan, something to do i the slow month. not bad as I only sent out 30 £1200 in two days but im still cleaning mud off my gear  :P :P

James
W - www.brsl.co.nz
E - james@brsl.co.nz

Kind regards James C

Spot On cleaning

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Re: having a go at a flyer !!!!!
« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2006, 08:59:33 pm »
Jay

I thought you'd departed to the other side. I am glad your busy. I have sent you an e-mail on yahoo.

Dave

BRSL

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Re: having a go at a flyer !!!!!
« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2006, 10:37:33 pm »
Nope the only moving ive done is to Bideford and that taken up a lot of my time, not having a phone line or broadband hasnt helped, but up and running on good old dial up,  :P :P :P

Ive spent a bit of time on the other side but it's not as exciting as here yet, but my head lies on both pillows, I wouldent leave you guys, your not that lucky  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

PS ive not got your Email, you going Carpex

James
W - www.brsl.co.nz
E - james@brsl.co.nz

Kind regards James C

Re: having a go at a flyer !!!!!
« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2006, 10:48:35 pm »
PS ive got 400ft of hose on my van so no worries, and ill clean your office for FREE  ;) ;)

Glad it's going well for you, James. However, you haven't seen the state of my office, I think it's more of a job for a Mini-Skip !!

Maybe the answer for avoiding muddy hoses is a "Puzzi" on a trolley..... pull it right up to the caravan door...... only the wheels to wipe afterwards.

(don't laugh, for several years we used a domestic Vax on our caravans!)

Andrew.