[Rob_Mac]

Kenny

Even with 35LPM it still won't shift all chewing gum, with heat it will. Just to be clear I never said it would do 300 Celsius, I said I thought 300 Fahrenheit was 180 Celsius, it is actually 150 Celsius.

I cleaned chewing gum off the storefront at Taplow in the week, working with other contractors, with the heat on I couldn't see them, just a lot of steam.

Rob

[Blast Away]

Kenny

Even with 35LPM it still won't shift all chewing gum, with heat it will. Just to be clear I never said it would do 300 Celsius, I said I thought 300 Fahrenheit was 180 Celsius, it is actually 150 Celsius.

I cleaned chewing gum off the storefront at Taplow in the week, working with other contractors, with the heat on I couldn't see them, just a lot of steam.

Rob

Was that you Rob??? Would have come over for a chat if I knew it was you! 

[Roger Oakley]

Kenny

Even with 35LPM it still won't shift all chewing gum, with heat it will. Just to be clear I never said it would do 300 Celsius, I said I thought 300 Fahrenheit was 180 Celsius, it is actually 150 Celsius.

I cleaned chewing gum off the storefront at Taplow in the week, working with other contractors, with the heat on I couldn't see them, just a lot of steam.

Rob

Is that the Sainsburys by the roundabout on the A4?

[Rob_Mac]

Lee

Very similar to that with a load of black spots trying to get their own back on me

Yes Roger with the big canopy - apparently the olympic torch is coming past and I have had to clean all the walls, kerbs, islands, slabs and the canopy to finish off on Sunday. Bit more on the right hand side low level to finish!

Rob

[Kenny83]

Kenny

Even with 35LPM it still won't shift all chewing gum, with heat it will. Just to be clear I never said it would do 300 Celsius, I said I thought 300 Fahrenheit was 180 Celsius, it is actually 150 Celsius.

I cleaned chewing gum off the storefront at Taplow in the week, working with other contractors, with the heat on I couldn't see them, just a lot of steam.

Rob

Sounds good mate, I know about the heat with chewy, thats what i put in my post and the 300 degree thing was a reply to roger...
The hot and mighty mahine on ebay you posted the number to is £18,000, looks a real beast, how would that compare to one of the machines at £7k performance / heat wise? As they look as meaty aswell, I take it the trailer bumps it up alot?

[Roger Oakley]

Kenny

Even with 35LPM it still won't shift all chewing gum, with heat it will. Just to be clear I never said it would do 300 Celsius, I said I thought 300 Fahrenheit was 180 Celsius, it is actually 150 Celsius.

I cleaned chewing gum off the storefront at Taplow in the week, working with other contractors, with the heat on I couldn't see them, just a lot of steam.

Rob

Sounds good mate, I know about the heat with chewy, thats what i put in my post and the 300 degree thing was a reply to roger...
The hot and mighty mahine on ebay you posted the number to is £18,000, looks a real beast, how would that compare to one of the machines at £7k performance / heat wise? As they look as meaty aswell, I take it the trailer bumps it up alot?

The one I bought was the "General" trailer

[Rob_Mac]

Kenny

The guys I work with a lot have some good machines, A Thor, A rapier & the new Alto contractor (is it called something else).

The Thor is just an absolutely monster - 45LP, split down to 22 on 2 men operation @3000psi and when it is on one man with most of the flow through a turbo nozzle it sound like a real angry bunch of bees but it is a cold machine.

The Rapier again great compact piece of kit, nice big pump and 30LPM, I think?!?!

The contractor would be the only machine really that would come anywhere close to the H & M - £9000.00 but it is a single operator unit.

For that you get the machine and a couple of lances.

I got a van full of set up, 1400 litre tank, 600 kilo of twin operator unit, with virtually instant heat, two cox reels, about 240 metres of 10mm? diameter hose, two flow adjusting, swivelling lances, it has chemical pick up and had a small header tank for antifreeze etc - I am sure that Roger won't mind me saying that it cost me considerably less than the price of the Contractor. I have spent a further £2000.00 on it and am due to spend some more on the recycling soon.

It had only done 250 hours of work.

I would say (I never saw Rogers trailer) that the George Podell trailers look like one of the best trailers I have seen, very, very nice. I have had a twin axle Ifor Williams Trailer, a single axle trailer and a very large 14 foot by 7 foot by 9 foot high.

The trailer would have been a big cost and also the import and taxes in getting it into the country.

Roger - How long did the process take from ordering the set up to getting it here?

The GP recycling system is very keenly priced at just under £6000.00 but it is large and would not fit into my vehicle - that is the only reason I have sourced an alternative in this country.

Are there any issues with the size of the machine?

Yes - it was made to fit into a trailer at 6 foot wide? and there is very little room for getting around it in the van, if there is a problem with it it has to go to the service people and be forklifted out of the van.

Saying that the bulk of the without water weight is on the back axle and you wouldn't know it was there when driving.

If someone said to me I have x amount of pounds what is the best kit out there? - I would say H & M, absolutely hands down.

The build quality is superb, there may be better or equal machines in America but there aren't any in this country!

Rob

[Roger Oakley]

Rob,

Seeing this was the first trailer set-up they exported to europe it did have it's problems, as in me sending over trailer hitches and then Podell having to source our braking system as to their electric brakes, as there weren't aware of the differences to our laws to theirs. so time was lost. They also skinned the trailer the wrong colour.
It should have took about 4 weeks from ordering to shipping, but it took around 3 months in the end, oh and it did get put in the wrong container and was bound for Italy so had to be transhipped  into the correct container.
They have got there act together now as Gum-Clear (martin whitbread) didn't go through the same problems as we did.
I think from memory with customs & duties etc it all came in at £14k or there abouts.

[Rob_Mac]

Roger

You must have been in profit then after selling them separately

Rob

[Roger Oakley]

Roger

You must have been in profit then after selling them separately

Rob

Maybe about £3-4k down form the purchase price to the selling price's but it made me a lot of money when i was using it. You have seen yourself how fast you can work with it.

[trevor perry]

Kenny

Even with 35LPM it still won't shift all chewing gum, with heat it will. Just to be clear I never said it would do 300 Celsius, I said I thought 300 Fahrenheit was 180 Celsius, it is actually 150 Celsius.

I cleaned chewing gum off the storefront at Taplow in the week, working with other contractors, with the heat on I couldn't see them, just a lot of steam.

Rob

 when moving gum heat is essential but water flow isnt a big issue, my machine runs at 21ltr a minute and 3000 psi, like robs goes upto steam but when removing gum i find it betterr to use a 03 size nozzle instead of the usual 07 size nozzle this reduces the water flow and any excess water is dumped back to tank i find using the smaller nozzle cuts through chewing gum twice as fast

[Kev Martin]

Kenny

The guys I work with a lot have some good machines, A Thor, A rapier & the new Alto contractor (is it called something else).

The Thor is just an absolutely monster - 45LP, split down to 22 on 2 men operation @3000psi and when it is on one man with most of the flow through a turbo nozzle it sound like a real angry bunch of bees but it is a cold machine.

The Rapier again great compact piece of kit, nice big pump and 30LPM, I think?!?!

The contractor would be the only machine really that would come anywhere close to the H & M - £9000.00 but it is a single operator unit.

For that you get the machine and a couple of lances.

I got a van full of set up, 1400 litre tank, 600 kilo of twin operator unit, with virtually instant heat, two cox reels, about 240 metres of 10mm? diameter hose, two flow adjusting, swivelling lances, it has chemical pick up and had a small header tank for antifreeze etc - I am sure that Roger won't mind me saying that it cost me considerably less than the price of the Contractor. I have spent a further £2000.00 on it and am due to spend some more on the recycling soon.

It had only done 250 hours of work.

I would say (I never saw Rogers trailer) that the George Podell trailers look like one of the best trailers I have seen, very, very nice. I have had a twin axle Ifor Williams Trailer, a single axle trailer and a very large 14 foot by 7 foot by 9 foot high.

The trailer would have been a big cost and also the import and taxes in getting it into the country.

Roger - How long did the process take from ordering the set up to getting it here?

The GP recycling system is very keenly priced at just under £6000.00 but it is large and would not fit into my vehicle - that is the only reason I have sourced an alternative in this country.

Are there any issues with the size of the machine?

Yes - it was made to fit into a trailer at 6 foot wide? and there is very little room for getting around it in the van, if there is a problem with it it has to go to the service people and be forklifted out of the van.

Saying that the bulk of the without water weight is on the back axle and you wouldn't know it was there when driving.

If someone said to me I have x amount of pounds what is the best kit out there? - I would say H & M, absolutely hands down.

The build quality is superb, there may be better or equal machines in America but there aren't any in this country!

Rob

Rob

So what are all your thoughts on the Falch Washers then?  I have neve seen anything better!  But before you all shoot me it is only an add on for us to our main business

Kev Martin
Marble life Ltd

[trevor perry]

Kenny

The guys I work with a lot have some good machines, A Thor, A rapier & the new Alto contractor (is it called something else).

The Thor is just an absolutely monster - 45LP, split down to 22 on 2 men operation @3000psi and when it is on one man with most of the flow through a turbo nozzle it sound like a real angry bunch of bees but it is a cold machine.

The Rapier again great compact piece of kit, nice big pump and 30LPM, I think?!?!

The contractor would be the only machine really that would come anywhere close to the H & M - £9000.00 but it is a single operator unit.

For that you get the machine and a couple of lances.

I got a van full of set up, 1400 litre tank, 600 kilo of twin operator unit, with virtually instant heat, two cox reels, about 240 metres of 10mm? diameter hose, two flow adjusting, swivelling lances, it has chemical pick up and had a small header tank for antifreeze etc - I am sure that Roger won't mind me saying that it cost me considerably less than the price of the Contractor. I have spent a further £2000.00 on it and am due to spend some more on the recycling soon.

It had only done 250 hours of work.

I would say (I never saw Rogers trailer) that the George Podell trailers look like one of the best trailers I have seen, very, very nice. I have had a twin axle Ifor Williams Trailer, a single axle trailer and a very large 14 foot by 7 foot by 9 foot high.

The trailer would have been a big cost and also the import and taxes in getting it into the country.

Roger - How long did the process take from ordering the set up to getting it here?

The GP recycling system is very keenly priced at just under £6000.00 but it is large and would not fit into my vehicle - that is the only reason I have sourced an alternative in this country.

Are there any issues with the size of the machine?

Yes - it was made to fit into a trailer at 6 foot wide? and there is very little room for getting around it in the van, if there is a problem with it it has to go to the service people and be forklifted out of the van.

Saying that the bulk of the without water weight is on the back axle and you wouldn't know it was there when driving.

If someone said to me I have x amount of pounds what is the best kit out there? - I would say H & M, absolutely hands down.

The build quality is superb, there may be better or equal machines in America but there aren't any in this country!

Rob

Rob

So what are all your thoughts on the Falch Washers then?  I have neve seen anything better!  But before you all shoot me it is only an add on for us to our main business

Kev Martin
Marble life Ltd

 what model was you looking at kevin, i once so a falch hot water trailer pressure washer in my opinion it wasnt very well thought out, it had two burners so twice as much to go wrong plus xtra fuel to run them both plus it would still only manage 21ltrs a minute also the water tank was way to small being about only 200ltr in size if running at 21 ltrs a minute this would only last 10 minutes and you would need a good water supply to keep up, most domestic supplies wont keep up when using 21ltr a minute, finally the electric control panel looked far to complicated and if water got in then would do some serious damage and believe me this is more likely to happen than you may think, i also think the machine was way over priced

[Kenny83]

Kenny

Even with 35LPM it still won't shift all chewing gum, with heat it will. Just to be clear I never said it would do 300 Celsius, I said I thought 300 Fahrenheit was 180 Celsius, it is actually 150 Celsius.

I cleaned chewing gum off the storefront at Taplow in the week, working with other contractors, with the heat on I couldn't see them, just a lot of steam.

Rob

 when moving gum heat is essential but water flow isnt a big issue, my machine runs at 21ltr a minute and 3000 psi, like robs goes upto steam but when removing gum i find it betterr to use a 03 size nozzle instead of the usual 07 size nozzle this reduces the water flow and any excess water is dumped back to tank i find using the smaller nozzle cuts through chewing gum twice as fast

I agree, I use a vario nozzle so can vary the nozzle to any degree from 60 to 0 pin jet, I adjust it so it is around 5 degree, not quite a pin but just wide enough to cove a piece of gum so all the force is concentrated on the gum and not the pavement around it, I find that a oin jet can be to small taking 3 4 strokes of the lance to remove gum

[Rob_Mac]

Kevin

I  like the look of them as well. Don't like the idea of towing them around (tacho and all that goes with that!!). I was and am very tempted when you mentioned you may be able to buy one as part of a bigger deal. I can definitely see an application for one.

They are a nice compact size and seem to have a lot of grunt. As Trevor seems to have seen under the bonnet of one I haven't and the only reason I have been put off them is the towing issue.

Aren't they quite pricey as well??

Did you ever do the deal that included the one mentioned previously??

Rob

[Blast Away]

Rob/Trevor, would I need a tacho for an ifor box trailer 10x5x6 same as yours? I'm looking for one to put a 24hp Lombardini in.

I'm bidding on this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ifor-williams-box-trailers-BV105G?item=320893461888&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D4%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8061504573699506940#ht_500wt_1413

[trevor perry]

Rob/Trevor, would I need a tacho for an ifor box trailer 10x5x6 same as yours? I'm looking for one to put a 24hp Lombardini in.

I'm bidding on this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ifor-williams-box-trailers-BV105G?item=320893461888&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D4%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8061504573699506940#ht_500wt_1413

   rob mentioned tachograph to me when he saw my trailer i was unaware one was needed  i did a bit of research and it depends on two things whether you need one the first is if the gross weight of vehicle and trailer is over 3500kg i have never been to a weighbridge to check this but i presume if carrying a full tank of water then i would be probably over but not sure, the second thing to consider is distance travelled you can be over this weight if working within a thirty mile radius of your work base, the majority of my work is within this distance so i have not bothered with a tachograph, if travelling further than 30 miles i fill tank when arriving at site, i should really have vehicle weighed at a weighbridge with tank empty to ensure i am within the law but have not got round to it yet.
   what machine are you thinking of putting in it lee, i may be building another trailer unit, i just bought another machine identical to the one i have at present and dont know whether to just keep it at unit as a back up or build another trailer to mount it in, i bought it from adam pauls brother you dont see them come for sale that often and they are silly money new

[Blast Away]

Rob/Trevor, would I need a tacho for an ifor box trailer 10x5x6 same as yours? I'm looking for one to put a 24hp Lombardini in.

I'm bidding on this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ifor-williams-box-trailers-BV105G?item=320893461888&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D4%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8061504573699506940#ht_500wt_1413

   rob mentioned tachograph to me when he saw my trailer i was unaware one was needed  i did a bit of research and it depends on two things whether you need one the first is if the gross weight of vehicle and trailer is over 3500kg i have never been to a weighbridge to check this but i presume if carrying a full tank of water then i would be probably over but not sure, the second thing to consider is distance travelled you can be over this weight if working within a thirty mile radius of your work base, the majority of my work is within this distance so i have not bothered with a tachograph, if travelling further than 30 miles i fill tank when arriving at site, i should really have vehicle weighed at a weighbridge with tank empty to ensure i am within the law but have not got round to it yet.
   what machine are you thinking of putting in it lee, i may be building another trailer unit, i just bought another machine identical to the one i have at present and dont know whether to just keep it at unit as a back up or build another trailer to mount it in, i bought it from adam pauls brother you dont see them come for sale that often and they are silly money new

Yeh I had a look at it Trev but it looks like it's been welded. Have you noticed this? It's on the head on top on engine. I believe you paid more than what he offered it to me for!  
I've just bought a Lombardini jetter van pack. Got the guy down to £475 for it as it has a slight leak in pump head. Bargain!
We're in South & West Yorks every 2 weeks so I'll need a tacho then if that's the case. I remember him mentioning the radius.

[Rob_Mac]

Lee

I've been working tonight so only just saw this.

Trevor has given you the main points but it goes a bit deeper than them.

I won't have a trailer and tachograph because every time you move it is recognised and recorded on the card reader. Think how many times you shunt the vehicle in a day. Everytime!!!!

I cannot remember what the allocation of working hours are but they aren't a lot.

I drove from Home to Taplow today - 3 hours then got on and did a 7 hour shift - I would have been over my working period.

I am sure it is only 45 hours per week but there is much more to it.

In nine months time you are pulled over and asked to justify why you worked twelve hours last Friday (because it is recorded) what are you going to say.

Christ - I can't remember yesterday!!! It is a nightmare - don't do it.

Spoke to a Tarmac driver at Colchester last year, he moved a metre on his break and didn't restart the break, £5000,00 fine.

Think about it!!!

Rob

[trevor perry]

Rob/Trevor, would I need a tacho for an ifor box trailer 10x5x6 same as yours? I'm looking for one to put a 24hp Lombardini in.

I'm bidding on this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ifor-williams-box-trailers-BV105G?item=320893461888&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D4%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8061504573699506940#ht_500wt_1413

   rob mentioned tachograph to me when he saw my trailer i was unaware one was needed  i did a bit of research and it depends on two things whether you need one the first is if the gross weight of vehicle and trailer is over 3500kg i have never been to a weighbridge to check this but i presume if carrying a full tank of water then i would be probably over but not sure, the second thing to consider is distance travelled you can be over this weight if working within a thirty mile radius of your work base, the majority of my work is within this distance so i have not bothered with a tachograph, if travelling further than 30 miles i fill tank when arriving at site, i should really have vehicle weighed at a weighbridge with tank empty to ensure i am within the law but have not got round to it yet.
   what machine are you thinking of putting in it lee, i may be building another trailer unit, i just bought another machine identical to the one i have at present and dont know whether to just keep it at unit as a back up or build another trailer to mount it in, i bought it from adam pauls brother you dont see them come for sale that often and they are silly money new

Yeh I had a look at it Trev but it looks like it's been welded. Have you noticed this? It's on the head on top on engine. I believe you paid more than what he offered it to me for!  
I've just bought a Lombardini jetter van pack. Got the guy down to £475 for it as it has a slight leak in pump head. Bargain!
We're in South & West Yorks every 2 weeks so I'll need a tacho then if that's the case. I remember him mentioning the radius.

 Just checked for the weld on top of engine which i had not noticed, when i looked it did look like a repair but checked on my other machine and it must be part of the casting as there is an identical line in same place on the other machine. adam gave it a full service before  i took it but i have not run it yet, i am going to use it tomorrow, out of interest how much was you offered the machine for.