[Morph]

Yep David Seagull usually knows what he's asking for.

A transfer pump: to send water from a holding container to another container/tank.

A booster pump: to increase the pressure from your mains feed into whatever filtration system you are using.

NB:  The Water Company will seriously want to know if you install a booster pump without the proper non-return systems in place.

The easiest way to use a booster pump is to fill a holding tank (1,000-2,500 litre) with tap water, then install a booster pump from the holding tank to your filtration system = increased psi to filtering = faster transfer to pure water.
Installing a booster pump straight off the mains is against regulations.  Big fat fine if caught.

Sorry, off topic a bit.  Hope you don't mind Ali G St Ives

Pj

[s.hughes]

Hi Morph, is that for real. I am not on a meter so they wouldnt know if I installed a pump. Didnt know it was against he law.
You learn something new every day.

Steve

[Morph]

Hi Morph, is that for real. I am not on a meter so they wouldnt know if I installed a pump. Didnt know it was against he law.
You learn something new every day.

Steve

Yes it's for real.  I am on a meter, but that makes no difference.  Its an offence.
Risk of contamination.  Ask any proper booster pump supplier.  They'll tell you the same.  Even a non - return valve isn't sufficient.

[genesis_windows]

If anyone knows where I can get a switch off valve, stroke petrol gun for a 1" hose i would be most gratefull. cant find one anywhere.

Nel.

fuel delivery nozzle 1"BSPF swivel inlet
classified under ancillary equipment page 40 of "elmbridge pump company" 2004 catalogue
phone no. 01452 313350.
based in gloucester 

[preston powerblast]

Ive just bought one of those pumps Gaz.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/water-pump_W0QQitemZ7736138199QQcategoryZ93636QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Will let you know what its like when it arrives, I've bought it to transfer water from my holding tank to my tank in the van.

[twt]

think its against the law to fit a booster pump because it could over draw the water supply and cause the water main to collapse, someone i know : uses a booster pump conected to a hose pipe if the pump over draws, the hose pipe is gonna collapse on its self a long time before the mains does. hope this makes sense ive got a head ache.

[Mr. S]

How can they tell if you use a booster pump, or am I just being naive. surely what you are going to extract unless you are a major water processing factory, couldnt cause any damage? I am on a meter so when I go wfp ive got yet another problem,well, to sort out!

[twt]

they cant tell, but the law is the to stop the mains from being damaged

[andrews]

Yep David Seagull usually knows what he's asking for.

A transfer pump: to send water from a holding container to another container/tank.

A booster pump: to increase the pressure from your mains feed into whatever filtration system you are using.

NB:  The Water Company will seriously want to know if you install a booster pump without the proper non-return systems in place.

The easiest way to use a booster pump is to fill a holding tank (1,000-2,500 litre) with tap water, then install a booster pump from the holding tank to your filtration system = increased psi to filtering = faster transfer to pure water.
Installing a booster pump straight off the mains is against regulations.  Big fat fine if caught.

Sorry, off topic a bit.  Hope you don't mind Ali G St Ives

Pj

i see what you are saying but what type of pump do you mean as i have the 100gpd ro system and at 40psi main water i am only making about 85litres in 24 hours and i have been looking for a pump to up the produced water 

[Morph]

The regulation is in place to protect the mains supply from contamination risk.  Booster pumps can go wrong (very rare), so the Water Company regulations , which I don't have to hand, protect the drinking water supply.  If the pump was to reverse flow or something strange, then contaminated water coult be pumped backwards into the mains again.  They are the kind of risks, hence the regulation.
The only practical way round it is:  You need to boost your water pressure into your filter system 1) Mains water into holding tank.  2) Run hose from holding tank outlet and fit booster pump.  3) Boosted pressure into filter system.
No risk of backflow into mains.
But as you say.  How are they to know?  They cannot tell if you are drawing water from the mains at an increased rate.    BUT  if ever they inspect.....
It's bye bye all your profits.  Hello huge fine!
I have the same low pressure problem so I've looked into it.  I still haven't done anything about it myself.
But thems the Regs.
And you know why all you safety conscious chaps changed to wfp?  The regs.

Pj

[preston powerblast]

Booster pumps are fine as I have seen these installed in houses with poor water pressure so long as they are protected by an anti return valve to prevent this from happening.

[Morph]

A non - return valve is correct for a hose, but not for a booster pump. It does not comply with regulations. 
According to my friend who works for water company, also according to London based Suppliers of booster pumps.

[preston powerblast]

I stand corrected.
But I'll have a chat with my mate he is well up on these things and I dont think for one minute a booster pump will push back mains pressure.
Anyway on the subject of pumps I bought that little one of ebay, it filled my tank up in just over an hour.

[steve k]

what about power showers...
that`s a booster pump isn`t it??

You know what??...there is a thing called "paralysis by analysis"
if we all look into every by law and follow it to the letter, we would do nothing!!
Most of these local-even national- laws were passed centuries ago in a time completely out of context with todays society.

Chill out and do your work...if YOU know that you are not contaminating a water supply, then go for it...

[Morph]

what about power showers...
that`s a booster pump isn`t it??

You know what??...there is a thing called "paralysis by analysis"
if we all look into every by law and follow it to the letter, we would do nothing!!
Most of these local-even national- laws were passed centuries ago in a time completely out of context with todays society.

Chill out and do your work...if YOU know that you are not contaminating a water supply, then go for it...

I know I'm not likely to fall of a ladder, but regulations are changing and it is safer with a pole.

I am chilled, in fact horizontal, man!

I think you'll find power showers are not sending out cold water under anything other than mains pressure.  The boost is on the hot part which is from a holding tank.
I don't make the rules.  But if caught it is a serious offence.
Bit hypocritical selling compliance with health & safety to our customers now we are ladderless, if we are risking the health and safety of many by possible contamination of potable water.  A booster pump has been known to malfunction and reverse flow the water.
The work at height regulation was not set up because everyone is falling off ladders.  It is a preventative measure. 
It's not really an issue for me.  I'm just passing on what a senior area manager for Anglia Water has explained.
I'm having to boost the pressure into my RO system at some time to make it more efficient.  I only want to do it once, and I want it to be within regulations, I don't want the worry that some day an inspector may come and demand I change it all and fine me in the process.
From all the concern on here about keeping to regulations being so important I thought we would be pleased to know about this.
If you're gonna do it, do it right - that's all!

[stephen d]

i think morphs on top of this subject and would follow his advice ,cheers steve