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Re: Should we post what we earn or can earn?
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2012, 10:58:56 pm »
who do you respect on this forum? Who do you look up to? JV Price? Alex Gardiner? Dave St Ives? Approved? any one of them would be classed as successful. Don't see them blabbing their earnings - why is that do you think?

ok a newbie comes on and say he is starting up and he going to start charging £3 a house (front and back)

What would you say to him?

Giving advice on pricing a house is different to bragging how much you earn a day week, month whatever.



How?

This person might be happy and ready to earn £50 a day, he then finds a forum and finds that its possible to earn more over time.

How is he to know this if its keeped secret.

Re: Should we post what we earn or can earn?
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2012, 11:01:59 pm »
remember OCS

They startted off as a window cleaning company 100 years ago, and earn;t a pittance.

They now gross over £700 million a year.

we all cannot just earn the minimum wage

taylored

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Re: Should we post what we earn or can earn?
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2012, 11:03:05 pm »
look at the ionic vid 4 bed house in 12min by one cleaner ??? if priced well and planed out 20-30 a day can be done.

mark dew

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Re: Should we post what we earn or can earn?
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2012, 11:22:50 pm »
Yeah i have always enoyed reading the earnings posts. They inspired me to put some prices up and helped improve my efficiency.
It doesn't seem that long ago when £200 in a day earnings were scoffed by the majority on here. Now the majority can.
Earnings posts help drive up achievable prices, i reckon. So keep them coming and let the ones who are interested sift through the bs and learn how someone is doing it.

Window Washers

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Re: Should we post what we earn or can earn?
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2012, 11:25:54 pm »
Yeah i have always enoyed reading the earnings posts. They inspired me to put some prices up and helped improve my efficiency.
It doesn't seem that long ago when £200 in a day earnings were scoffed by the majority on here. Now the majority can.
Earnings posts help drive up achievable prices, i reckon. So keep them coming and let the ones who are interested sift through the bs and learn how someone is doing it.
Mark I swear it was you that I spoke to few years. Ack do you still clean in st. Neots ?
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

mark dew

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Re: Should we post what we earn or can earn?
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2012, 11:30:01 pm »
Yeah i have always enoyed reading the earnings posts. They inspired me to put some prices up and helped improve my efficiency.
It doesn't seem that long ago when £200 in a day earnings were scoffed by the majority on here. Now the majority can.
Earnings posts help drive up achievable prices, i reckon. So keep them coming and let the ones who are interested sift through the bs and learn how someone is doing it.
Mark I swear it was you that I spoke to few years. Ack do you still clean in st. Neots ?

You bought those brokem sl2 sections off me awhile back. I don't remember any conversation though. Its not me from st neots.

Window Washers

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Re: Should we post what we earn or can earn?
« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2012, 11:31:26 pm »
Yeah i have always enoyed reading the earnings posts. They inspired me to put some prices up and helped improve my efficiency.
It doesn't seem that long ago when £200 in a day earnings were scoffed by the majority on here. Now the majority can.
Earnings posts help drive up achievable prices, i reckon. So keep them coming and let the ones who are interested sift through the bs and learn how someone is doing it.
Mark I swear it was you that I spoke to few years. Ack do you still clean in st. Neots ?
Ok mate, is another mark not seen your posting for a long while

You bought those brokem sl2 sections off me awhile back. I don't remember any conversation though. Its not me from st neots.
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

Richard iSparkle

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Re: Should we post what we earn or can earn?
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2012, 11:36:17 pm »
one of the problems seems to be that some people decide whether something is 'true' or not by what they've experienced and what they believe is possible.  so they are always going to be limited by their own experiences.

and how can you judge whether people are real or not by how long they stay on a forum.  if people who post about earnings or daily workloads get abused and bullied by other forum contributors, i'm not surprised they don't stick around.
iSparkle Window Cleaning

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Re: Should we post what we earn or can earn?
« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2012, 11:51:15 pm »
Who cares? ;D

Window Washers

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Re: Should we post what we earn or can earn?
« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2012, 11:58:47 pm »
one of the problems seems to be that some people decide whether something is 'true' or not by what they've experienced and what they believe is possible.  so they are always going to be limited by their own experiences.

and how can you judge whether people are real or not by how long they stay on a forum.  if people who post about earnings or daily workloads get abused and bullied by other forum contributors, i'm not surprised they don't stick around.
Not how long they stay around you can just tell, people that post thing like this don't stick about because normally they are shown to be talking out off there a@&
And when shown it they can't handle it that's the cold hard truth Richard and as as winpro says who cares, what others warn make no difference to others at all
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

rosskesava

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Re: Should we post what we earn or can earn?
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2012, 12:44:46 am »
look at the ionic vid 4 bed house in 12min by one cleaner ??? if priced well and planed out 20-30 a day can be done.

Blimey. Here we go again.

Dream on.

Sorry mate.

Work out the logistics.

Are they all near together, no traffic problems, all 12 minutes, no unexpected hold ups, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.
Just chant..... Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. It's beats chanting Tory Tory or Labour Labour.

Re: Should we post what we earn or can earn?
« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2012, 05:11:50 am »
pricing - good
Rate per hour Good
Full all day or volume Good
How much your earn NO GOOD. ??? ??? ???

Londoner

Re: Should we post what we earn or can earn?
« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2012, 07:25:11 am »
F--- off about posting earnings I don't want to know. Its all rubbish anyway. I don't think we should discuss such matters.

Don't read the threads then.

Its not ME reading the threads that I am concerned about. There is already one thread running with some idiot talking about earning £500 a day.

Frankybadboy

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Re: Should we post what we earn or can earn?
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2012, 07:31:03 am »
what i earn is my business and mine only,


why would i want to tell you lot or anyone,you only be jealous ;D

gary999

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Re: Should we post what we earn or can earn?
« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2012, 08:20:10 am »
who do you respect on this forum? Who do you look up to? JV Price? Alex Gardiner? Dave St Ives? Approved? any one of them would be classed as successful. Don't see them blabbing their earnings - why is that do you think?

ok a newbie comes on and say he is starting up and he going to start charging £3 a house (front and back)

What would you say to him?

Giving advice on pricing a house is different to bragging how much you earn a day week, month whatever.



agreed!unfortunately this forum is full of little boys masquerading as men hoping to
be little celebritys on here..oooh look at me i need to inflate my ego i have deep insecurities
and a small thingy but look at me waving my large trunk around. ;D

seriously giving good advice to people about pricing equipment and good workpractices
is totally different to quoting figures (SOME OVERINFLATED)lacks class and is in bad taste

hey what would i know im just a window cleaner! ;D

Ian101

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Re: Should we post what we earn or can earn?
« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2012, 08:21:48 am »
I earm what I earn some days good some days great some days rubbish I do my own thing and only concern myself with my earnings.

ben M

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Re: Should we post what we earn or can earn?
« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2012, 08:58:34 am »
I earm what I earn some says good some days great some days rubbish I do my own thing and only concern myself with my earnings.
well said! :)

gavinb

Re: Should we post what we earn or can earn?
« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2012, 09:16:14 am »
Personally i couldn't care less what other people earn .
The way I see it as long as you are earning what you want to earn and are happy with the way things are going who cares .
There are always going to be people Willy waving saying "oh look at me i earn more than you ". So what ?if it makes you feel good belitteling other people on what you earn carry on . because remember your only a window cleaner !!!!!!!!

Myself im yet to start but when i do i wouldn't bother posting how much i earns there will allways be people earning more than you and there will allways be people earning less than you . that's life for you .

in my last trade i had a decent paid job and had a side business aswell i was happy with what i was earning circa a grand a week but it came to an abrupt end due to ill health .

Paul Coleman

Re: Should we post what we earn or can earn?
« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2012, 09:42:23 am »
F--- off about posting earnings I don't want to know. Its all rubbish anyway. I don't think we should discuss such matters.

Don't read the threads then.

Its not ME reading the threads that I am concerned about. There is already one thread running with some idiot talking about earning £500 a day.


I got within spitting distance of that once and once only on a very large, very well priced job.  I priced it before I realised how quickly WFP can get around some jobs.  Never again though.  A couple of nights later, and for a few nights after, I kept getting woken up by pains in one of my arms.  It wasn't worth it.  Pace myself much better now.  Not willy waving here.  Just telling the WHOLE truth about that day.  After the pain I went through, I wouldn't do a day like that again for a thousand.  I can earn perfectly OK money without knocking my body to shreds.

Johnny B

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Re: Should we post what we earn or can earn?
« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2012, 11:26:31 am »
I am with Gavinb on this.

I set myself achievable targets and if I hit them, great. If I fail, I don't worry as every day is different and it balances out over time.

The more you put into this game, the more you will get from it. How much depends on you. Though I don't see the need to publish earnings, we could ask ourselves honestly;  are we jealous of those who say they earn more, or do we hold in derision those who don't. Or are we happy for ourselves and for each other in that we can encourage each other with useful tips on what has helped us to stay in business.

John 



 
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