[William McCafferty]

anytime anyone posts a topic or responses to a topic and they state what they have as a turnover or wage, they are slated or praised depending on the figure quoted.

Personally if someone is quoting figures below what I am achieving then I might give advice on how I command more, I try not to sound like I'm bragging but others seem to think I am.

You then get some who are doing really well, now these people also get slated, why?

Personally I would like to see how they achieve what they say they do, numbers and facts don't lie, providing they are true facts and figures.

A lot of ladder cleaners have heard that wfp returns more per hour than trad on most properties, yet when anyone anyone now pushes wfp they are believed.

Turnover and money earnn't is a emotive subject, with some who object to figures being quoted, yet these same people want to know how they can streanline their business with better equipment or what have you.

So is there a double standard being operated by some?

[taylored]

i think there needs to be a Block button on here so you can stop people you dont want in you topic
£400-£500 a day can be done, if you take the help off posts on here.
please keep all the good post coming lads

[Richard iSparkle]

i think there needs to be a Block button on here so you can stop people you dont want in you topic
£400-£500 a day can be done, if you take the help off posts on here.
please keep all the good post coming lads

as the person who starts a topic i think you can delete any of the posts can't you? i only noticed this today, but honestly think that this might be the only way to keep a topic on subject without other posters slating comments made and preventing other people contributing.

[Londoner]

F--- off about posting earnings I don't want to know. Its all rubbish anyway. I don't think we should discuss such matters.

[Perfect Windows]

F--- off about posting earnings I don't want to know. Its all rubbish anyway. I don't think we should discuss such matters.

Don't read the threads then.

[Richard iSparkle]

just checked.  you can't.  you can only delete your own replies    

i wonder what would happen if you reported to a moderator as off topic or inflammatory ?

[Richard iSparkle]

F--- off about posting earnings I don't want to know. Its all rubbish anyway. I don't think we should discuss such matters.

don't read the threads and dont post on the threads.

i;m not being rude here.  there are plenty of topics on here that I;m not interested in which i don't contribute to. 

[taylored]

if people did not post what they earn I THINK I WOULD STILL BE TOOOOOOOOOOOOO CHEAP and be happy to earn less, 

[William McCafferty]

F--- off about posting earnings I don't want to know. Its all rubbish anyway. I don't think we should discuss such matters.

Vince

Thats a good point.

so lets go back in time, say 15 years when wfp was not heard of.

Some idiot comes onto to a forum and says he can now clean houses twice as fast as he use to with ladders.

You would not want to know how he is doing it? or would you want to know how he is doing it?

[Lee GLS]

Some idiot comes onto to a forum and says he can now clean houses twice as fast as he use to with ladders.

You would not want to know how he is doing it?

or are you still on ladders?

Of course we would, but that's got nothing to do with posting about  earnings, has it?

That would be ways in which we can speed up!!

I agree about not saying how much we earn, what does it really achieve? The majority now how much you can earn in a good day, but you do get the better days when yu can earn a lot more, but people come on here posting those kind of figures for one reason only, to willy wave. The majority of people that post the figures are bullpoopers!

[Dave Willis]

That's easy. if it fits this definition   http://www.brainyquote.com/words/br/brag138628.html
Then a forum is not the place.

If you just want to help then a simple explanation that wfp is generally a better earner then fair enough. Unfortunately most wfp operatives forget the massive overheads compared to trad.
There is no need to spout daily earnings then pretend you are trying to help people because it simply falls into the catagory of bragging. It's bad taste and bad manners.
There are hundreds of ways to help newbies, I don't believe bragging is one of them.

[William McCafferty]

turnover per day or in a week should be taken witrh a pinch of salt, its the overall figure for the year that matters.

This figure also need to filter down to the work and time involved.

A ladder cleaner can have a turnover figure which is what he wants, but a wfp guy could be doing the same figures, while working less than 20% of what this guy does.

We all look at ways to increase our earnings, some increase their prices, some come off ladders to wfp, some upgrade their poles or equipment etc etc.

so therefore we all are interested in increasing how much we can earn from this trade.

so if someone says they have a certain turnover figure, instead of pooping on them from a great height, rather look at how they are achiving it.

Remember we all can still learn from each other.

[Dave Willis]

who do you respect on this forum? Who do you look up to? JV Price? Alex Gardiner? Dave St Ives? Approved? any one of them would be classed as successful. Don't see them blabbing their earnings - why is that do you think?

[taylored]

good post hydro

[Lee GLS]

who do you respect on this forum? Who do you look up to? JV Price? Alex Gardiner? Dave St Ives? Approved? any one of them would be classed as successful. Don't see them blabbing their earnings - why is that do you think?

Good post Mr Etting   

[rosskesava]

I don't mind anyone posting about earnings provided it's truthfull and there's some explanation or something about how they earn that but when even the simple logistics or driving between jobs means that it's impossible........

Last Friday I spent more time in traffic jams that I did window cleaning but these posters never have problems with traffic, have all the jobs almost next to each other or in the next street, they are all quick, easy and pay well, they're so superhuman they can do 30, 40 or 50 houses a day, every day, and they never seem to mention about the organisation that would be needed or how they go about it.

There's so much BS posted and often it's obvious it's BS.  

As posted above, it's willy waving.

[William McCafferty]

who do you respect on this forum? Who do you look up to? JV Price? Alex Gardiner? Dave St Ives? Approved? any one of them would be classed as successful. Don't see them blabbing their earnings - why is that do you think?

ok a newbie comes on and say he is starting up and he going to start charging £3 a house (front and back)

What would you say to him?

[ben M]

I don't mind anyone posting about earnings provided it's truthfull and there's some explanation or something about how they earn that but when even the simple logistics or driving between jobs means that it's impossible........

Last Friday I spent more time in traffic jams that I did window cleaning but these posters never have problems with traffic, have all the jobs almost next to each other or in the next street, they are all quick, easy and pay well, they're so superhuman they can do 30, 40 or 50 houses a day, every day, and they never seem to mention about the organisation that would be needed or how they go about it.

There's so much BS posted and often it's obvious it's BS.  

As posted above, it's willy waving.

+1

[Lee GLS]

who do you respect on this forum? Who do you look up to? JV Price? Alex Gardiner? Dave St Ives? Approved? any one of them would be classed as successful. Don't see them blabbing their earnings - why is that do you think?

ok a newbie comes on and say he is starting up and he going to start charging £3 a house (front and back)

What would you say to him?

Giving advice on pricing a house is different to bragging how much you earn a day week, month whatever.

[William McCafferty]

I don't mind anyone posting about earnings provided it's truthfull and there's some explanation or something about how they earn that but when even the simple logistics or driving between jobs means that it's impossible........

Last Friday I spent more time in traffic jams that I did window cleaning but these posters never have problems with traffic, have all the jobs almost next to each other or in the next street, they are all quick, easy and pay well, they're so superhuman they can do 30, 40 or 50 houses a day, every day, and they never seem to mention about the organisation that would be needed or how they go about it.

There's so much BS posted and often it's obvious it's BS.  

As posted above, it's willy waving.


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these posters are found out by how long they normally last on a forum.

I know that if someone said they do this or that which I'm am not them I would ask questions and look at if I could use the same methods.

The same applies when new tools or chemicals come onto the market, if its going to earn me more then I am interested.