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Richy L

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Diesel / petrol pressure washers
« on: February 12, 2012, 04:30:14 pm »
I'm thinking of buying a new machine later in the year.My yanmar diesel machine is a bit old now.
I'm thinking of getting a Honda petrol (same spec as my diesel - 15lpm, 200 bar, 3500psi). I know the petrol is a bit more expensive to run, but it is also a couple of thousand cheaper to buy!

My diesel is now on a pull start and to get the key start working again I would need to spend a bit of money on it, when there is really no need.

What else would you consider before buying?

Blast Away

Re: Diesel / petrol pressure washers
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2012, 05:25:43 pm »
Lee Kenny has a Yanmar with a 201 pump and gearbox on mate. It's a nice one, tidy and on a plate. Mount it in your van.
I'd have it but it would just be sat about with my other spare machines.

Kenny83

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Re: Diesel / petrol pressure washers
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2012, 06:06:50 pm »
Lee Kenny has a Yanmar with a 201 pump and gearbox on mate. It's a nice one, tidy and on a plate. Mount it in your van.
I'd have it but it would just be sat about with my other spare machines.

It's a very tidy machine, had minimal use, like new! will send you some pics if you like... I may even buy your old unit off you... theres no need to buy new if you get a well looked after 2nd hand diesel, refurb'd aswell
give me a ring if interested 07871242012
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Matt Gibson

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Re: Diesel / petrol pressure washers
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2012, 07:06:36 pm »

My diesel is now on a pull start and to get the key start working again I would need to spend a bit of money on it, when there is really no need.


Mate, im in the process of reconning the yanmar i bought not long ago. there were no keys with it and the key barrely was ruined so i bought a starter button, and just rewired it. But lee has some good machines, i was gonna get one off him but he sold it too quick!!

Stay diesel mate

Richy L

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Re: Diesel / petrol pressure washers
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2012, 08:05:16 pm »
My machine is about 12 years old now. It works well and I have upgraded the pump, added a bigger fuel tank and added a big pressure hose reel on top.

Its just hard to start it when it is cold. Sometimes it can take 15 pulls of the pull start before it starts.


I have just changed over all my quick releases and serviced it so I'll be keeping this one for a little while.


What are the specs of your machine Kenny.
If you have the pics on your computer send them over, then if it is still for sale when I want to buy another one I will keep you in mind.....  richard@leeksons.com

Kenny83

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Re: Diesel / petrol pressure washers
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2012, 09:36:16 pm »
Mine is a mint yanmar L100 diesel, interpump 201 with gearbox, 15 litres per minute @ 200bar (3000psi).

Advice for yours is to take your fuel line off and clean it out, clean the injector or even replace (about £25 off ebay), change your fuel filter, starting and running problems on diesels nearly always caused by the fuel system so start there.
Also a can of easy start will get it going easier in the meantime
Hope this helps
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BDCS

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Re: Diesel / petrol pressure washers
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2012, 11:05:30 pm »
Running a thinner oil helps in the first instance - this helps it spin faster when starting. Go from 10/40 to 5/30 for the winter or keep the machine in your living room  ;D

Richy L

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Re: Diesel / petrol pressure washers
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2012, 12:15:27 pm »
Cheers Kenny,
I get it serviced every year and an oil change.

I'm not very good with the mechanical side.(well I have never tried to be honest)
I'm going to sound a bit clueless now, but when you say it has a gear box, what does that mean?- what else can it do?

Richy L

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Re: Diesel / petrol pressure washers
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2012, 12:17:52 pm »
... or keep the machine in your living room  ;D
I've been temped! I have kept an oil radiator in the van overnight in the past, but that just worries me.
Once it has been running for a few minutes I can turn it on and off all the time.


Richy L

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Re: Diesel / petrol pressure washers
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2012, 12:18:46 pm »
For the type of work I do mostly, it involves turning the machine on and off about 30 times over a 4 hour period. Lots of stopping and starting.

Im thinking a key start would just run the battery down fast wouldnt it?

Blast Away

Re: Diesel / petrol pressure washers
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2012, 12:25:29 pm »
For the type of work I do mostly, it involves turning the machine on and off about 30 times over a 4 hour period. Lots of stopping and starting.

Im thinking a key start would just run the battery down fast wouldnt it?

I thought you were clued up Richy!  ;D

The battery is recharged when the engine is running.

What pump have you got on your Yanmar at the moment?

The gearbox is between the pump and engine and reduces the RPM which is good for both the engine and pump

mike roberts

Re: Diesel / petrol pressure washers
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2012, 02:57:38 pm »
Cheers Kenny,
I get it serviced every year and an oil change.

I'm not very good with the mechanical side.(well I have never tried to be honest)
I'm going to sound a bit clueless now, but when you say it has a gear box, what does that mean?- what else can it do?

Aprox 60 miles / hr  ;D ;D (in the back of the van  :P  ;D ;D)

Richy L

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Re: Diesel / petrol pressure washers
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2012, 04:32:45 pm »
I dont even Lee.
I use a local guy who sells and repairs machines. He's cheap enough to give it to him if I have any problems. I've known him for years so I trust his word when he comes to sell me anything.

I'll take some pics of my machine and put them up on this thread soon. I'll try to get some pics tonight when I start work.


When it comes to using the machine I'm a genius! ;D  ;D ... but repairing it is another story!

Blast Away

Re: Diesel / petrol pressure washers
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2012, 04:40:05 pm »
I dont even Lee.
I use a local guy who sells and repairs machines. He's cheap enough to give it to him if I have any problems. I've known him for years so I trust his word when he comes to sell me anything.

I'll take some pics of my machine and put them up on this thread soon. I'll try to get some pics tonight when I start work.


When it comes to using the machine I'm a genius! ;D  ;D ... but repairing it is another story!


You need a key start pal. Pulling your recoil on a job doesn't look the part.   ;)

Richy L

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Re: Diesel / petrol pressure washers
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2012, 04:43:01 pm »
I dont even Lee.
I use a local guy who sells and repairs machines. He's cheap enough to give it to him if I have any problems. I've known him for years so I trust his word when he comes to sell me anything.

I'll take some pics of my machine and put them up on this thread soon. I'll try to get some pics tonight when I start work.


When it comes to using the machine I'm a genius! ;D  ;D ... but repairing it is another story!


You need a key start pal. Pulling your recoil on a job doesn't look the part.   ;)


It's knackering too!

The battery I have doesnt hold a charge and I have been told I need a bigger battery really.

Kenny83

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Re: Diesel / petrol pressure washers
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2012, 08:14:17 pm »
Cheers Kenny,
I get it serviced every year and an oil change.

I'm not very good with the mechanical side.(well I have never tried to be honest)
I'm going to sound a bit clueless now, but when you say it has a gear box, what does that mean?- what else can it do?
As Lee Blastaway says mate, to make everything run slower, a 3000 rpm pump will only last half as long as a 1450 rpm pump, It's a way of making the pump last longer and therefore more reliable, the gearbox is to step down the rpm of the engine (between 3000 and 36000rpm) but at the same time keeping the most power there to pump the high volume of water/power ie when an engine is at it's most powerfull on high revs. if you took out the gear box and tried to run it off and engine doing 1450rpm direct then the engine would stall because there wouldn't be enough power there.
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Kenny83

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Re: Diesel / petrol pressure washers
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2012, 08:16:27 pm »
For the type of work I do mostly, it involves turning the machine on and off about 30 times over a 4 hour period. Lots of stopping and starting.

Im thinking a key start would just run the battery down fast wouldnt it?
What kind of work do you do to have keep stop/starting your engine? maybe theres a way round it?
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Matt Gibson

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Re: Diesel / petrol pressure washers
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2012, 08:29:38 pm »
Richy, whats the problem with the key start mate? is it just the battery? or is a wiring issue? just get yourself a new battery (smallish car battery would do) and wire it up and then get yourself a cheap test light from halfrauds and test the wires. i cant imagine it being a major issue cause theres only a couple of wires that the key start uses.

Lee, i didnt realise the Yanmars had an alternator to charge the battery while its running though i did wonder how the battery didnt run flat.

Blast Away

Re: Diesel / petrol pressure washers
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2012, 09:22:29 pm »
Richy, whats the problem with the key start mate? is it just the battery? or is a wiring issue? just get yourself a new battery (smallish car battery would do) and wire it up and then get yourself a cheap test light from halfrauds and test the wires. i cant imagine it being a major issue cause theres only a couple of wires that the key start uses.

Lee, i didnt realise the Yanmars had an alternator to charge the battery while its running though i did wonder how the battery didnt run flat.

It's another name for it mate, positioned near the starter. Can't think of it!

When Richy talks about stop starting around 30 times a day at times he will be referring to Reverse Graffiti.

Kenny83

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Re: Diesel / petrol pressure washers
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2012, 12:08:17 am »
think the other name is a voltage regulator for the charging circuit, it's the little grey box
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