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matt

Re: Frozen solid
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2005, 05:20:05 pm »
im looking at sub 200 a unit, so a fair saving, these are all ex german MOD units

the deal is taking its time as we have issues with the lingo, i run my e.mails though a translator and i dont think its that good (or the words i use are not understood by him)

Ive got a first come first getting the goods type of post on the DIY forum

http://d.co.uk/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=163


the deal isnt 100% YET, but looks VERY likely

dai

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Re: Frozen solid
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2005, 07:38:32 pm »
Did an experiment last night. It was -7c I ran an extension lead to the van and left an inspection lamp with a 100 watt bulb on all night. It did nothing as far as thawing out was concerned, but it did stop new water from freezing. A 100 watt bulb gives off enough heat for an escort van. Dai

matt

Re: Frozen solid
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2005, 08:00:09 pm »
you can get special "heat lightbulbs" give 1 of them a whirl

Jeff Brimble

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Re: Frozen solid
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2005, 09:18:15 pm »
Dont forget the trip device on the extension and ask for "Rough service" bulbs- they are robust.
One prob with all the electrical answers is a power cut- thats where Matts eb***acer units come in or a paraffin heater or whatever as a stand by. We get a lot of power cuts round here.

CWCS

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Re: Frozen solid
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2005, 09:45:13 pm »
have electric oil filled rad in van thermostatic control, ideal for keeping everything thawed out, but as soon as hoses touched the icy sub temp ground, bingo frozen no work today :-[

Roy Harding

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Re: Frozen solid
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2005, 10:21:10 pm »
Hi CWS

You say your hoses froze after they touched the frozen ground.

Are you using a small bore hose?

As I use 1/2" Tricoflex hose this has five layers to stop it from kinking, and have  had no problems at all.

Roy

edd

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Re: Frozen solid
« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2005, 11:40:27 am »
can not see what the problem is convector heater in argos £20 quid plug it in and put in the van done this for 25 years now no problem just go to work.As for freezing buy a thurmo pure like mine edd nice hot poles ummm!!

Morph

Re: Frozen solid
« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2005, 12:33:19 pm »
Lend us £10grand :o

edd

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Re: Frozen solid
« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2005, 06:49:45 pm »
how about £20000 better deals on £20000

jsm

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Re: Frozen solid
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2005, 07:49:59 pm »
Got up super early ( 4.30) yesterday to do a large supermarket , took most of the gear out the night before so thats was ok , got to the site about 5.30 and started , water iced up on the windows and after about 5 mins the jets stopped , the alloy connecter that connects the 6mm hose to the big hose froze - plus the water running down onto the pavement froze turning the path into a ice rink  :-[

after doing WFP for a while there was no way I was going to do all 2-3 floors by ladder .

Back home in bed by 7am  ;D

went and done it today instead

John Malone
JSM. Window & General Cleaning
(  North Wales  )
Giving homes a shine sicne 1989

one of the early gang of wfp er's ---- remember , when you cant see out - give JSM a shout

matt

Re: Frozen solid
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2005, 07:52:59 pm »
does the hot system really help much

cause as soon as the water hits the cold glass and the cold pavement, its still going to freeze

init  ??? ??? ???

Ben Walker

Re: Frozen solid
« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2005, 08:29:14 pm »
i reckon, if its warm enough (ie not gone through some really long hose) it will only starts to freeze when its lying on the pavement, having done the job.

just a reckoning

edd

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Re: Frozen solid
« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2005, 06:01:07 pm »
definatly does not freeze on windows like i said just do your work with nice hot poles and no equipment problems either, plus with a convector in van all night its nice a warm anyway. Just switch the thurmo pure heater on as i drive to the first job and leave it on all day or as needed proberly uses 1 litre diesel a day but who caires ive got nice warm hands edd

gaza

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Re: Frozen solid
« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2006, 07:47:42 pm »
PUT A GAS BOTTLE IN ME VAN FIRST FROST,HOW HOT WAS THE VAN COULD BOIL A KETTLE,MAKE TOAST AS WELL,BRETT STOOD AT THE SIDE TO GET WARM[DIDNT YOU BRETT] ;D

 GAZA
IM AT THAT AGE MY BACK GOES OUT MORE THAN I DO

Jeff Brimble

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Re: Frozen solid
« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2006, 10:21:55 pm »
Do I see the birth of a new business selling tea coffee and toast as a side  line  :)

Ian Rochester

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Re: Frozen solid
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2006, 07:24:54 pm »
I'm resurrecting this thread as we have had two horrendous days with the cold, pumps frozen, hoses frozen and also the DI cannister appears to be frozen.  I have not run any water through the RO unit as we haven't used any, that may be frozen too.

Does anyone know of any heaters that can be safely plugged into the 12v cigarette lighter overnight without flattening the battery?

sair

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Re: Frozen solid
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2006, 08:17:19 pm »
hi all

ive just secured hot water systems for our sytems , they will be coming out near future at a fraction of cost of thermo pure .

they will work on similar principle as the heat exchanger units for caravans and lorry heaters . the company themselfs will develop the best way to heat the water,and maintain heat  the up side is it could also provide heat for the van . the issue is now just power as want it to run of 12 volt which means larger battery so that the booster systems can still work whist making water it may just be as simple as 2 115 amp , watch this space .

web site for essentially pure should be active next week or so

Essentially Pure Ltd

Re: Frozen solid
« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2006, 03:39:55 pm »
It must be flameing cold here in Gloucester,The bristles on my brush keep freezing up,and poles sections freezing together,I was afraid that ice in the brush bristles might scratch the glass,so packed in for today.Does anyone else think that ice in brush head could scratch glass.Van not a problem,i run electric cable from house to van and keep van warm with electric oil filled radiator.

very cold in gloucester! ice doesnt scratch the glass.
am in gloucester too. if you need any help with anything 'gis a shout.
regards.
Russ

matt

Re: Frozen solid
« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2006, 04:20:14 pm »

Does anyone know of any heaters that can be safely plugged into the 12v cigarette lighter overnight without flattening the battery?

even the 12 V thats do drain the battery are not worth it, they are useless

Jeff Brimble

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Re: Frozen solid
« Reply #39 on: October 07, 2006, 07:36:06 pm »
If you are new to wfp read this thread, you have a couple of weeks to winterise your kit before the clocks go back. Could save you some costly mistakes.