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Perfect Windows

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Re: Electric reel (again)
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2012, 02:56:52 pm »
It speeds up every clean by about 30 seconds.  At about 25 cleans a day in summer (two of us) that's 12/13 mins saved a day, which takes us halfway to doing one more clean a day (or spending another quarter of an hour at home).

We're also noticeably less knackered at the end of a day.  Me, at 48, you might understand, but my Joey (19 on Friday) also feels less tired.

But you could be right; keeping the job slower and harder than it has to be might be the way forward.

As for

who holds your pole for you whilst your cleaning, surely you don't its far too heavey!

the antidote to your sarcasm is to ask you in return, why don't you tie a brick to the end of your pole, surely it's too light?

Vin

easy clean

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Re: Electric reel (again)
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2012, 03:08:19 pm »
What do you do with your extra 12 mins......mess about with putting drill batteries on charge and making sure you've got on ready for the next day!

Maybe you could take it it turns to wind up the hose, do you think you'd still be all worn out after only winding it iin 12 times?

Tell me this is a wind up!

Perfect Windows

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Re: Electric reel (again)
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2012, 03:26:57 pm »
What do you do with your extra 12 mins......mess about with putting drill batteries on charge and making sure you've got on ready for the next day!

Nope, about 30 seconds for that bit - you'd have to be seriously weird to spend 12 minutes putting a battery on charge - so we spend the time fitting in an occasional extra clean, earning us more money.  Other times we get home quarter of an hour earlier.  If you consider that a waste, fine with me.

You remind me why I post so much less these days; all you get in return for any advice is derision from people trying to prove themselves.  Tie a brick on your pole and people will think you're a real man.  Meanwhile, I'll be doing more jobs and working less hard, making me gay.

Vin

easy clean

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Re: Electric reel (again)
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2012, 03:43:50 pm »
Sounds like you need to get someone who can wind a reel then, think how much more work you could do then, you clearly cantcos you seem to think your doing it 30 seconds quicker, what did it take you before.....10 mins!!!!!!

easy clean

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Re: Electric reel (again)
« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2012, 03:45:50 pm »
If your gonna post such crap, then maybe that's a good idea, now your starting to talk sense!

Perfect Windows

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Re: Electric reel (again)
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2012, 04:11:43 pm »
Sounds like you need to get someone who can wind a reel then, think how much more work you could do then, you clearly cantcos you seem to think your doing it 30 seconds quicker, what did it take you before.....10 mins!!!!!!

Employ someone to wind a reel in?  That would cost for more than the time and effort I'd save and....


Oh, hang on, that's sarcasm isn't it?

Well done.  Very droll.

easy clean

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Re: Electric reel (again)
« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2012, 04:19:32 pm »
Not just a pretty face then are you!

davids3511

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Re: Electric reel (again)
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2012, 05:11:39 pm »
Sounds like you need to get someone who can wind a reel then, think how much more work you could do then, you clearly cantcos you seem to think your doing it 30 seconds quicker, what did it take you before.....10 mins!!!!!!

Employ someone to wind a reel in?  That would cost for more than the time and effort I'd save and....


Oh, hang on, that's sarcasm isn't it?

Well done.  Very droll.
Just ignore him, he's obviously a cock bored on a Sunday afternoon.

Perfect Windows

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Re: Electric reel (again)
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2012, 10:49:18 pm »
While the empty-headed idiot is off on another thread boasting about his wedding-tackle-replacement Ferrari, here's a point for anyone looking to do this.


NiCad batteries really don't hold enough charge for this purpose, so a solution is to wire them to a 24v vehicle battery (OK for a 24v or 18v drill).  I have two just past their best 12v van batteries, so that's the next stage.  Then I'll have about two weeks from a battery charge if pushed.  I'll put pics up when I've sorted the battery bit out.

Vin

Re: Electric reel (again)
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2012, 05:48:52 am »
were do you plug it in . do you use the custys electric , or do you carry a genny about with ya  ???

[GQC] Tim

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Re: Electric reel (again)
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2012, 08:47:24 am »
Nice going, reminds me I need to revive my own plans for this.

ps. Electric reels are the way forward, ignore people that say otherwise, if it was for some of them we would still be stuck with whippy Tucker poles and brick on a stick Vikans. No point in holding back progress and is a shame to see this still happening.

davids3511

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Re: Electric reel (again)
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2012, 12:54:23 pm »
While the empty-headed idiot is off on another thread boasting about his wedding-tackle-replacement Ferrari, here's a point for anyone looking to do this.


NiCad batteries really don't hold enough charge for this purpose, so a solution is to wire them to a 24v vehicle battery (OK for a 24v or 18v drill).  I have two just past their best 12v van batteries, so that's the next stage.  Then I'll have about two weeks from a battery charge if pushed.  I'll put pics up when I've sorted the battery bit out.

Vin
I got my Site drill from Screwfix about a year ago. It came with 3 batteries and once charged up they last me about 2 weeks (the 3 of them) but they are nearly new so will probable degrade with time.

Perfect Windows

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Re: Electric reel (again)
« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2012, 05:46:45 pm »
While the empty-headed idiot is off on another thread boasting about his wedding-tackle-replacement Ferrari, here's a point for anyone looking to do this.


NiCad batteries really don't hold enough charge for this purpose, so a solution is to wire them to a 24v vehicle battery (OK for a 24v or 18v drill).  I have two just past their best 12v van batteries, so that's the next stage.  Then I'll have about two weeks from a battery charge if pushed.  I'll put pics up when I've sorted the battery bit out.

Vin
I got my Site drill from Screwfix about a year ago. It came with 3 batteries and once charged up they last me about 2 weeks (the 3 of them) but they are nearly new so will probable degrade with time.

Which drill did you get?  If the 24v solution fails, I may be looking again.

Thanks,

Vin

dazmond

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Re: Electric reel (again)
« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2012, 06:43:06 pm »
each to their own.i wouldnt bother with drills myself but thats my choice.good luck lads!!saying that if someone designed a proper professional electric reel i might be tempted to get one! ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D

best wishes


dazmond
price higher/work harder!

Sean Dyer

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Re: Electric reel (again)
« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2012, 06:46:20 pm »
each to their own.i wouldnt bother with drills myself but thats my choice.good luck lads!!saying that if someone designed a proper professional electric reel i might be tempted to get one! ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D

best wishes


dazmond

same here but only because im useless with diy

Anything that makes life quicker / easier is fine by me


♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: Electric reel (again)
« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2012, 06:48:56 pm »
While the empty-headed idiot is off on another thread boasting about his wedding-tackle-replacement Ferrari, here's a point for anyone looking to do this.


NiCad batteries really don't hold enough charge for this purpose, so a solution is to wire them to a 24v vehicle battery (OK for a 24v or 18v drill).  I have two just past their best 12v van batteries, so that's the next stage.  Then I'll have about two weeks from a battery charge if pushed.  I'll put pics up when I've sorted the battery bit out.

Vin

Wouldn't "LION" batteries be better?

Lee GLS

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Re: Electric reel (again)
« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2012, 06:57:49 pm »
While the empty-headed idiot is off on another thread boasting about his wedding-tackle-replacement Ferrari, here's a point for anyone looking to do this.


NiCad batteries really don't hold enough charge for this purpose, so a solution is to wire them to a 24v vehicle battery (OK for a 24v or 18v drill).  I have two just past their best 12v van batteries, so that's the next stage.  Then I'll have about two weeks from a battery charge if pushed.  I'll put pics up when I've sorted the battery bit out.

Vin

For an 18v drill you only need a 12v battery, BUT you need a drill with 2 speed settings, and set it to the slower speed, the battery has enough power to run it on the slower speed and it's more controllable, I have been running a drill from an old 85ah battery for 18 months now, it has to do 2 reels, and the battery last roughly 3 days before it needs charging.

Why anyone would knock this idea is beyond me, it may only save a few minutes, but it makes life so much easier, why make your life harder by winding them in by hand???

Perfect Windows

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Re: Electric reel (again)
« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2012, 07:00:09 pm »
Li-ion would certainly be better than NiCad.  

The research I've done suggests that lead acid batteries are the best for running motors.  SOmething to do with how they react to current being drawn.  The others, whether NiCad/NiMH/Li-ion are compromised but that's offset by their size and weight.  Since I have a couple of 12v van batteries spare, I decided to give them a try...should have about 46Ah against NiCad at 2Ah, so should get a LONG time out of them.

If it doesn't work, I'll be back to drill batteries.

Vin

Perfect Windows

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Re: Electric reel (again)
« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2012, 07:02:22 pm »
For an 18v drill you only need a 12v battery, BUT you need a drill with 2 speed settings, and set it to the slower speed, the battery has enough power to run it on the slower speed and it's more controllable, I have been running a drill from an old 85ah battery for 18 months now, it has to do 2 reels, and the battery last roughly 3 days before it needs charging.

Why anyone would knock this idea is beyond me, it may only save a few minutes, but it makes life so much easier, why make your life harder by winding them in by hand???

I'll try it on 12v as well.  If that works, it'll be perfect as I'll just wire it to the van batteries (my pumps are wired so) and forget the charging.  Great idea!

V

davids3511

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Re: Electric reel (again)
« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2012, 12:19:24 am »

Which drill did you get?  If the 24v solution fails, I may be looking again.

Thanks,

Vin
It's a Site SMB810. I think I got a great deal with it. It has metal gears, made by Makita and comes with 3 batteries for £49.99.