[george garwol]

hi

I'ts my first post, so i'd like to say hello to every one!


I'm after going trough forum, but didn't find answer for my problem.

Would you notify big difference between using 3000psi (200bar) and 3600(250bar) pressure - same flow = 15lpm.
I gonna use it for cleaning cattle houses, and asking, because stuff rated over 3000psi is more expensive, ex. hot box for 250 bar is double price.
200 bar does a job, but would i save lot of time using 250bar?
Another thing i'm wondering about,  that would hot water speed up manure cleaning?
money for buying equipment is a limit, so i have choice: 200bar cold water, or 250 bar hot water.
 

[trevor perry]

pressure between 3000psi and 3600psi you wont notice much differance, but if i was you i would try and get a machine with more water flow ie 21 litres per minnute also using hot on that type of work makes a massive differance so would certainly go for hot

[george garwol]

thanks for reply trevor.

I'm just thinking about Annovi Reverberi pump XW20.30  200 bar/30lpm. found them in Malcolm's. workin on my own i would get 20-30lpm (1000-1450rpm). If i had to, can divide flow for two wands and still be ok enough. 

 

[Blast Away]

What engine have you got?

[george garwol]

there will be small diesel engine out of a car, pump and generator will be belt driven. just have to work out, would this kind of setup be cheaper to run than petrol washer, and petrol generator together.
I'll se how it works. if it doesn't work well, i'll be thinking about yanmar, kubota or hitachi diesel. Anything over 20hp.

[Rob_Mac]

George

20 HP is a lot of engine.

I have several pressure washers and the main one is a 24 HP running a now 35 litre per minute pump, twin operator at 18LPM.

Just got it back from the service people as it has been upgraded from a 22LPM pump.

The difference is frightening but in most single operator scenarios completely unnecessary.

It will get used by me on every project this year and as a package it is phenomenal.

For 5 years I used 200Bar @ 15LPm and I cleaned just about everything with these machines. I still have them all as back up and secondary units.

Know what you are doing with the kit you are using and this will go a long way to getting the job done properly. It doesn't always have to be the biggest machine that is the best for the job!!!

What is your budget?

Rob

[Matt Gibson]

there will be small diesel engine out of a car, pump and generator will be belt driven. just have to work out, would this kind of setup be cheaper to run than petrol washer, and petrol generator together.
I'll se how it works. if it doesn't work well, i'll be thinking about yanmar, kubota or hitachi diesel. Anything over 20hp.

How will you be moving it round? or will it be static? I use a large lombardini engined washer, three cyl diesel beast of thing, belt driven pump. Its probably overkill but i got it cheap, but it does take up a fair whack of the van although its cheap as chips to run and can run all day everyday, so reliable.

But as everyone says, you can do just as much with a smaller 7-10hp engined machine. Aslong as the machine is big enough to run the pump, your laughing. Its all in the pump..

[Blast Away]

Rob, have you got an 18hp Kohler engine for sale?

[Rob_Mac]

I have a 18HP Kohler on a drain jetter - full set up!. It is petrol, I also have a 22LPM General (Interpump) pump? that was taken off the Hot & Mighty.

Any use??

Rob

[george garwol]

I was going to put unit, water bowser and hot boxes into a trailor. i have got engine for long time, so thats the reason for use it for pump.

budget is variable. i think to go with around 2000 quid max, but i have time until farmers empty their sheds, so another good couple of weeks.  if i got unit cheaper, i can get more accesories for start.
most of work i will be doing, are cow sheds, and its mostly two man job. one man washing all the time, second man taking off rubber mats etc. but i don't want second man to be iddle if he had nothing to do.

i've done small cattle house today, with hired 200bar 15lpm. soaked dirt up, changed nozzle to new one. did job ok.tried turbo nozzle as well. it's some animal
if i got lance with two nozzles and go wider would i make work way faster i wonder?

Rob, kohler sounds nice. would you want to sell it? whole setup or engine alone?

[Rob_Mac]

The Kohler is a 18 HP @ 30LPM with about 100 metres of hose and secondary reel for 1 inch fill up hose. I could put at least 30 metres of decent filler hose on this.

The only reason I don't use it is because it is Petrol and I have such long run times it is more economical to use diesel.

It is a good machine, with 400 litre tank (though this has been disconnected for a 1000 litre IBC) and drain jet heads, in excellent condition.

Not sure of price but would expect round the £2000.00 mark.

Anyone interested let me know.

Rob

[george garwol]

great piece of tool, but i missed it's petrol. diesel will be cheaper to run. anyway price is interesting.

[drive surgeon]

rob did you buy the hot and mighty set up off rog?  how u finding it.  i had a quote off t george podell a while ago for a twin operator machine.

[Rob_Mac]

I did buy the H & M from Roger.

It was a great piece of kit for a one person operator, it is now a frightening one person operation and a very good twin operator unit, with heat and very well put together.

With the pump upgrade it has a very large turbo nozzle with a 10 inch cleaning diameter and I am cleaning my patio with it tomorrow.

I doubt very much there will be another one like it in the country.

I don't understand why Mr Podell put such a small pump on such a big engine in the first place!!!

Rob

[Rob_Mac]

I will get some photos tomorrow and try and upload them.

Rob

[Roger Oakley]

I did buy the H & M from Roger.

It was a great piece of kit for a one person operator, it is now a frightening one person operation and a very good twin operator unit, with heat and very well put together.

With the pump upgrade it has a very large turbo nozzle with a 10 inch cleaning diameter and I am cleaning my patio with it tomorrow.

I doubt very much there will be another one like it in the country.

I don't understand why Mr Podell put such a small pump on such a big engine in the first place!!!

Rob

Glad you like the H&M, told you it was a great bit of kit.

[Rob_Mac]

Roger

Give  you a ring tomorrow

Rob

[BDCS]

I have a new type Kohler command 18hp with a pump from a Nixon jetter for sale - £450 for the pump & motor or maybe available as a complete trailer jetter with electric cox reel. I also have another of the same engine / pump with a lpg conversion - £550. Pumps are 3000psi @ 8 gpm (36 litres)