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Seymour Sunshine

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Re: HWE versus LM and VLM
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2012, 05:31:42 pm »
sorry i thought you were asking about cleaning a small piece of carpet,
the best method for cleaning a sheep is strap it to the roof of your car and go through the car wash, surely.  ;D

Best method is similar to washing a sheep dog:

I - tie animal to a tree.

II - spray with a hose until thoroughly wet.

III - rub in large quantities of pet shampoo.

IV - hose off until water runs clear.

(Repeat III and IV if necessary)

V - untie animal and allow to dry naturally.

VI - groom when dry.

Also known as CWND = Cold water natural dry method.
Banjo players are sent from heaven ... to make drummers look good.

derek west

Re: HWE versus LM and VLM
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2012, 05:35:08 pm »
 ;D

would that not cause shrinkage ;D

LM boys will be here in a bit saying whats wrong with a quick spray and a towel rub. ;D

Seymour Sunshine

  • Posts: 207
Re: HWE versus LM and VLM
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2012, 05:39:14 pm »
Low profile carpet found in offices responds better to bonnet cleaning.

Mike was referring to residues. (read the post above his)

Wet sheep smell is wool as Colin says.

God your getting me confused ;D


gary22's web site refers to wet sheep smell in office carpets. I think he might be using "wet sheep" as a catch all for unpleasant, musty, "damp" smells.
Banjo players are sent from heaven ... to make drummers look good.

Re: HWE versus LM and VLM
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2012, 06:13:50 pm »
So let me see if I am getting this right...........

Colin smells like a wet sheep......

Derek has shrunk .........

CraigP is a confused god...........

Gary22 has/wants/needs a F1 TM

Mike Halliday has/is a confused operator.....




Now what was the question???:

Colin Day

Re: HWE versus LM and VLM
« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2012, 06:15:34 pm »
;D

would that not cause shrinkage ;D

LM boys will be here in a bit saying whats wrong with a quick spray and a towel rub. ;D

Tin hats...On!


 ;D

derek west

Re: HWE versus LM and VLM
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2012, 06:20:08 pm »
So let me see if I am getting this right...........

Colin smells like a wet sheep......

Derek has shrunk .........

CraigP is a confused god...........

Gary22 has/wants/needs a F1 TM

Mike Halliday has/is a confused operator.....




Now what was the question???:

no no no, it was me that asked craig to clean colins sheep with gary's F1 truckmount while mike watched on confused

keep up hector ;D

Re: HWE versus LM and VLM
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2012, 06:21:27 pm »
so who has shrunk then??

or was that Colins sheep??

who is Colin??


Colin Day

Re: HWE versus LM and VLM
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2012, 06:26:05 pm »
I AM a smelly sheep, but I much prefer to be bonnet cleaned, it's less invasive and simply distributes the mucky colour, so my fur is uniformally dull.... ;D

Re: HWE versus LM and VLM
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2012, 06:29:14 pm »
And that Mr Symour sunshine is the answer to your question

Bonnet (LM) clean

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

so says the shrunken F1 driving smelly sheep

 ;D ;D

derek west

Re: HWE versus LM and VLM
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2012, 06:31:25 pm »
i thought colins tin hat shrunk????? even i'm confused now

Seymour Sunshine

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Re: HWE versus LM and VLM
« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2012, 06:40:14 pm »
Thanks for all the helpful answers. I've finally decided what to do ... I'm going to be a professional sheep groomer!

At least then, if it smells like a damp sheep afterwards, I've got a good excuse.
Banjo players are sent from heaven ... to make drummers look good.

derek west

Re: HWE versus LM and VLM
« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2012, 06:41:57 pm »
sheep groomer eh ??? is that the politically correct way of saying it? ;D

Mike Halliday

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Re: HWE versus LM and VLM
« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2012, 06:46:45 pm »
getting back from CIU at the Apollo...

lets look at this carefully....

in all situations the client is asking  us to clean the carpet, so we need to know the definition of  'clean'  

according to the dictionary it means

free from foreign & extraneous matter


So how can we measure how clean we make the carpet, a test By the USA organisation CRCI (as reported in Cleanfax magazine) tested the cleanliness of a carpet by weighing it..... according to them if you remove contaminants from a carpet it will weight less . if you think about it this does make sense.... until you think about it more, then you can see flaws in this theory.

Eg: I often bonnet clean polypro' rugs and they look really clean but sometimes i will take them off site and do them properly in the unit.

my first step is to beat the back of the rug to remove the vast  mount of dry soil the lays deep in the pile. at this point the rug will weight vastly less then if I had bonneted the rug but will not look any cleaner .... but according to the CRCI the beaten rug is cleaner than the bonneted as it contains less foreign & extraneous matter  

So is clean really what the client is asking for or do they mean something else? if theynow  really mean 'clean' then just spend an hour dry vaccing and tell them that the carpet is cleaner than if you had used any other method.

to answer my own question when 99% of clients  ask for clean they want the carpet to look clean not be clean
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

JandS

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Re: HWE versus LM and VLM
« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2012, 06:49:06 pm »
Don't forget when your "grooming" the sheep do
it at the edge of a cliff so it pushes back.

John
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

PaulKing

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Re: HWE versus LM and VLM
« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2012, 06:59:06 pm »
I have all 3 to hand, but use HWE on 98% of my work.. (At a guess!!!)

I do have success with all 3 methods, but I believe HWE offers a deeper clean....

dito
www.revitaclean.com  established 1968 in Newcastle Upon Tyne

derek west

Re: HWE versus LM and VLM
« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2012, 07:07:00 pm »
Don't forget when your "grooming" the sheep do
it at the edge of a cliff so it pushes back.

John
;D ;D

Richard Basey-Fisher

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Re: HWE versus LM and VLM
« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2012, 07:17:10 pm »
i have all 3 methods at my disposal    and a muck spreader   and a fendt  ( F1 version in the tractor world)

Steve. Taylor

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Re: HWE versus LM and VLM
« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2012, 07:51:50 pm »
Love this post i can see that CIU 2012 will be a good one. ;D

Now That's what i call cleaning forums 80 available from all good forums now ;D
Steve T       All the gear but no idea!
www.leatherrepairsouthampton.co.uk

Seymour Sunshine

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Re: HWE versus LM and VLM
« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2012, 08:14:56 pm »
So, to summarise what I have learned thus far:

1 - HWE is ALWAYS better than LM or VLM except for situations where it isn't.

2 - Clean means different things to different people. Customers don't really want clean carpets, they want carpets that appear to be clean.

3 - Some carpet cleaners are expert sheep handlers.

4 - There are some good people on this forum guaranteed to make me laugh out loud.
Banjo players are sent from heaven ... to make drummers look good.

Jim_77

Re: HWE versus LM and VLM
« Reply #39 on: January 02, 2012, 08:31:28 pm »
I think the CRI test was something to do with using UV light?  There's something in the blurb on Hydramaster's website, or at least there was, that the boxer 427 with RX-20 achieved the "gold" standard