[CraigBlues]

Evening Guys!

Firstly just want to wish everyone a Merry Christmas.

Also anyone use a MPV i.e Citroen Belingo Multispace as a van for window cleaning?

Anyone know what the load capacity is? I'm guessing its slightly less than a van but could you still fit a small WFP system in the back, or a trolley system possibly?

Basically if anyone knows the weight load that be perfect! :-)

[AS Window Cleaning]

I know someone who use renault kangoo, he isn't sure of max payload but he has 200 litre tank in back which is enough for him anyway.

Just be careful as the weight would be right at the back due to chairs being further forward.  I have a caddy that also comes in the maxi with seats in, but would't like to stick 400kg right over the rear axle as its too far back.

Other than that, cant help, sorry!

[Jeff Brimble]

I put a 350L upright tank in the tailgate area of one of the early Berlingos, with ladders and equipment plus one person it takes the payload to the Maximum legal weight spread over two axles.
I have just Bought a Ford Galaxy and will refit everything in the Berlingo in it, as I needed more space. But the Berlingo will do it at a pinch.

[AS Window Cleaning]

I put a 350L upright tank in the tailgate area of one of the early Berlingos, with ladders and equipment plus one person it takes the payload to the Maximum legal weight spread over two axles.

 have you done it per axle? as that is where problem will be, with rear overloaded. and I imagine substantially percentage wise, which is how they judge it by.

[Jeff Brimble]

It was within the limits per axle and total weight- just.

[LWC]

I had a Ford Galaxy up until 6 months ago or so, it was a 2.3 petrol so very heavy on fuel!

But had a 400l tank in back, was brilliant in fairness, bags of room! I blanked out back windows to. I had no problems with it other than mpg, would go for diesel in future for sure!

[Jeff Brimble]

Thanks for feedback FireMatt   Dont suppose you still got a handbook or roof bars and or tips  ?

My annual milage is lowish 3,500 so not too woried bout mpg, just wanted a bit of space   Mines petrol 2.3 1981 £1000 - any guess on mpg.
Looked at a Mitsubishi Van but its a tad too long for the Garage which the Galaxy fits in   its also lower than the berlingo by 2"

Craig I fastened the tank in with ratchet straps to the seat anchorages and fed round the tank baffle spaces then to the rear anchorages, the weigt of water helps keep it in place, but please note I only do 3 miles slowly fully laden at 15 mph for the flower basket watering the tank does, For window cleaning use I use 10L containers carrie seperately.Also look at the fiat/peugot equivalent.
Cheers Merry...... healthy New Year 

[LWC]

Tips? Drive it slow  They pull like a train lol. Hmm mpg really isnt great tho, £10...30 miles maybe 40 eek! lol

My dad had the car, its still got roof bars on it i think. And handbook in it, do you need them do you?

The 400 was that little bit too long so couldnt have rear seats up with tank in.



So maybe go for a 350 upright, hmm maybe even a flat would fit. Tell you what for work tho it was so comfortable, air con, heaters in back heated front screen lol. My combo doesnt have any of this.

[Jeff Brimble]

Quote" its still got roof bars on it i think. And handbook in it, do you need them do you?  "
Oh yes please have you seen the prices of them on ebay  :, lets do a deal on at least the handbook, my email is below in my avatar.Cash by paypal.
Cos I will also travel with two eleccy golf trolleys wfp units inside I will just be using it as a van with all rear seats removed, my gawd its bigger inside than out.
Cheers  
oh I used to be retained 

[LWC]

Ill ask my dad Jeff if hes willing to part lol, im only in Oswestry, not too far from you, its LWC if you didnt know.

[Jeff Brimble]

Hi   I would snap his hand off !
no didnt know, nobody tells me anything.
M 07970 727 624

[LWC]

Do you mean the haynes manual?

[Jeff Brimble]

Any thing really, they dont do a Haynes for the 2001 ?

Craig heres an idea of what it looks like in the Berlingo.

[LWC]

Just text you  so you used to be retained 

[CraigBlues]

Any thing really, they dont do a Haynes for the 2001 ?

Craig heres an idea of what it looks like in the Berlingo.

I'm really liking that Jeff, anymore pictures? :-)

[Jeff Brimble]

No, cannot do more as the tanks out for the winter. Next to the roof is a corrugated plastic shelf to rack the poles.
The rear seat back has to be vertical to get the upright tank in, inches count.

[GoodFella2006]

Craig,would you tell us about your hose reel here.

[CraigBlues]

Craig,would you tell us about your hose reel here.

Not my van. Its Jeff's. I was just asking about it.

So Jeff, do you still have the three rear seats up? As I thought about just removing them.

[birdymiller]

Any thing really, they dont do a Haynes for the 2001 ?

Craig heres an idea of what it looks like in the Berlingo.

Jeff, i see you can open your boot with ladders on. How are your ladders attached to roof bars, do they scratch boot or topple onto your bonnet if you are not careful. I am looking at getting a new motor for work as my 205 van is not big enough now i have a backpack again. Been looking at a estate car with a boot that opens like yours, but not sure if i will be able to get into boot without taking ladders off. Looked at freelanders with doors that open to the side, but dont want to go down the 4x4 economy route again with all the stop and start.

[Jeff Brimble]

Look carefully and you will see its all down to the front rail of the roofrack (3 crosss rails)look at the upside down ubolts,  this third rail supports the ladders forward over the cab and allows you to have the bulk of the double 12 rung ladders behind it so that they cannot tilt forward - unless its a double sixteen rung.I now use a B&Q ladder hook on the middle section (pair are approx £25) to bolt the ladders on instead of my local temporary bungee elastic. Hope this helps.