No Jim, I am not missing any valid point. I also understand complicated replys so please dont question my intelligence.
Sorry I was a bit tired and grumpy last night, reading back over the thread I was a bit rude, my apologies
But in reply to some of the points you make:
Fact is: Your every day Joe Bloggs searching the internet looking for a carpet cleaner stumbles upon a site that states trained by the NCCA, this site may have a link to the NCCA website, the potential customer could come to the conclusion that the company is connected with them.
Exactly! They ARE connected with the NCCA... they've done one of their bloody courses! Taking someone's money off them for a training course and then forbidding them to say who they're trained by is just nonsensical. As I said earlier, they could easily wipe this problem out altogether by only allowing association members to do the courses.
But of course they won't, because that means they'll sell less courses and make less money. Kind of sticks in the throat, taking your money off you and then kicking you in the balls like that. It stinks.
My gripe is: Why should I have to pay for what really amounts to the same thing. This is damaging a very well recognised association, why? Because next year I and many other members may just do the same thing, so it is in the best interests of the NCCA to stop it now.
Your annual subscription to the NCCA buys you much more than just being able to put their logo on your website, doesn't it. There's a
massive list of benefits you get for your money. So it is ridiculous to say that you are getting the same benefits as someone who just advertises the fact that they're trained by the NCCA.
I am not a lawyer and havent got a clue if it is enforceable, I would guess that the NCCA have, hence the bit in Decembers issue.
It's an out-and-out bluff. I'd love to see the NCCA try to take a case like this to court! It's so short-sighted of them, why don't they realise that outside sources promoting their association and website is a good thing! Free publicity! What they're basically trying to do is cut off their nose to spite their face.
Where are your facts based from that the majority of skilled carpet cleaners are not members of the NCCA?
The simple fact that there are only
545 members of the NCCA!!!! Added to that, the general consensus from forum conversations and from speaking to many different carpet cleaners is that very few are members.
It seems that the NCCA tends to snare newcomers to the industry who think it's the same as being Gas Safe registered, but then as soon as they wise up a bit, many realise that they don't have to be members and maybe don't get much benefit, and hence don't keep up their membership.
Surely if such an organisation has been around for such a length of time it should have the vast majority of carpet cleaning businesses on its books? It just shows that something's not being done right and it's been like that for years.
Why try and damage a long established association?
I don't think anyone's trying to damage the NCCA, if I had PAID for one of their training courses I would damn well expect to be able to tell the general public that fact. It isn't any sort of attempt to damage the association at all, just to benefit from the investment made.
If there's a trend of people leaving the association for various reasons, the NCCA should blame only itself for failing to provide any benefit to its members. It's nobody else's fault but theirs if they can't do their job properly.
The NCCA is maybe not for everyone, or if someone just wants to save a few quid, get rid of the NCCA stuff and maybe put “trained to industry standards”
Hahaha yeah and if you want to see what those industry standards are...
that'll be £50 please just for the bloody privilege!!!
ker-CHING goes the NCCA's till......
Doug, the NCCA is run by the old guard and is stuck in its ways. The very prospect that "younger dynamic guys could join the NCCA and shake it up" is exactly what they don't want, so it'll never happen