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L.Doubtfire - The Blade Runner

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Window Cleaning Franchise Operations
« on: December 10, 2005, 07:03:51 am »
Does anyone have any experience or knowledge of any window cleaning
Franchise operations that there may be in the U.K.If so,how do they work
And operate,any web sites to look at etc.? What I`m thinking of is something
Perhaps similier to the ServiceMaster carpet cleaning,Chem-Dri carpet cleaning
And Dyno-Rod drain cleaning franchise operations that there are.As I understand
It they are reasonably popular in the U.S.A.Anyone who does have a franchise
With a U.K. based company,what are the main advantages/disadvantages etc.
Thanks in advance for all comments and replies.


Lewis Doubtfire, Gleem Clean ( The Blade Runner )
L. Doubtfire
Window Cleaner

PowerClene

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Re: Window Cleaning Franchise Operations
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2006, 08:07:57 pm »

ok cleaning

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Re: Window Cleaning Franchise Operations
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2006, 08:42:19 pm »
what alot of rubbish is that powercleane is not it?

poleman

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Re: Window Cleaning Franchise Operations
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2006, 09:36:38 pm »
http://www.staycleanwindows.co.uk/wfp/franchising-3.html I have spoken to this chap and Paul from powerclene I wouldn't class there businesses as rubbish mate!

Andy 

ok cleaning

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Re: Window Cleaning Franchise Operations
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2006, 10:46:14 pm »
do you realy think franchising is a good  way to start  to     clean windows i dont tink so i started all by myself  14 years ago and only took me 2 years to establish araund to make me go another 12 years and hopefully another 10 to finish my morgage and reach for the happy retirement

JohnL

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Re: Window Cleaning Franchise Operations
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2006, 11:00:33 pm »
I dont think this thread is about the viability of a franchise system but whether there are any out there!
West Somerset. On the edge of the Quantocks and looking at The Exmoor National Park.

stephen d

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Re: Window Cleaning Franchise Operations
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2006, 11:11:11 pm »
i got a letter just the other day on this subject from www.cleanteamltd.com if thats the route you wish to go.

Londoner

Re: Window Cleaning Franchise Operations
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2006, 10:20:35 am »
I am not knocking anybody or any organisation but if you take out a franchise you pay a percentage of your take to them.
Why would anyone want to do that? I can't see how they add any value to the process of cleaning windows.

If you think they will get the work for you then I suggest you are going to be disappointed. If you can't get your own work you are probably not cut out to be a window cleaner.
Window cleaning is 10 % shining the glass and 90% dealing with customers on a day to day basis. If you need to hide behind someone else to do that you need to think again.
In any business there are chancers who have tried to open up franchise operations purely for the purposes of making themselves rich. Usually they have failed and took the people who gave them money down as well.

Re: Window Cleaning Franchise Operations
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2006, 04:23:17 pm »
http://www.staycleanwindows.co.uk/wfp/franchising-3.html I have spoken to this chap and Paul from powerclene I wouldn't class there businesses as rubbish mate!

Andy 

Andy,

I've just looked at the site you posted:

http://www.staycleanwindows.co.uk/wfp/franchising-3.html

I reckon much of what they're saying is pure rubbish.

Eg.

Quote
Water fed poles pumping de-ionisised pure water to heights of sixty feet and more are taking over as the natural choice for cleaning windows from the ground floor upwards to enable window cleaners to fully comply with these new regulations. These systems can cost as much as £40,000 per vehicle but Stayclean includeall the equipment needed apart from the vehicle for just £9,995.

Now whose flogging WFP systems (not the vehicle, just the system) for 40K?

I wouldn't touch these con-men (and that's what it sounds like they are) with a barge-pole.

40K for a WFP system??? ;D

leestuartevans

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Re: Window Cleaning Franchise Operations
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2006, 04:25:34 pm »
franchising allows some people who want to be managers to run a larger size company with much lower risk than going it alone. very few franchises go bust and borrowing for growth as a franchise is much easier. the franchise market is worth over £10 billion in the UK alone.  going it alone means you have a 90% chance of failure in the first three years.

What you have to ask yourself is whether you can achieve your goals going it alone or under the umbrella of a larger organisiation. There is no real right or wrong here , simply that some window cleaners go it alone and clean windows for 14 years and get a £100K turnover business, and they are their own boss. nothing wrong with that . Others buy a franchise , get a £400K turnover business after 3 years but do pay a cut for the rights. nothing wrong with that either.  

Yell.com arent out to rip you off but they ask for a cut of your profits to advertise your business. simple as that.

Generally franchises are more readily saleable when you want to retire whereas little black books with pencilled names arent.

Why not give a few window cleaning franchises a call? they dont bite!

regards
 lee

Re: Window Cleaning Franchise Operations
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2006, 04:28:54 pm »
Lee,

Do you run a franchise?

poleman

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Re: Window Cleaning Franchise Operations
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2006, 04:36:13 pm »
He does and I had one of his letters  :o I invited him on to c l e a n i n g p r o s on a post about his company but he did not reply  :-\

Andy
PS yes agree Tosh that is a lot of money for a wfp  :o 

matt

Re: Window Cleaning Franchise Operations
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2006, 06:05:20 pm »


Andy
PS yes agree Tosh that is a lot of money for a wfp  :o 

come on andy, you know you get what you pay for

i bet the system is Really shiny and the van looks like its chrome, its that shiny


poleman

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Re: Window Cleaning Franchise Operations
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2006, 06:14:00 pm »
Blimey are have 2 then  ;D

Andy

Moderator David@stives

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Re: Window Cleaning Franchise Operations
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2006, 07:52:36 pm »
Thats saying all window cleaners use a dodgy black book !!!!!!!!!!!

I think its time to come into the 20th century, most of us on here use George software or some other.

Pencilled names,

I think you are insulting to most on this forum

Dave

Re: Window Cleaning Franchise Operations
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2006, 08:45:10 pm »
simply that some window cleaners go it alone and clean windows for 14 years and get a £100K turnover business, and they are their own boss. Others buy a franchise , get a £400K turnover business after 3 years but do pay a cut for the rights.

As a rule, I think the above rhymes with rollox!

But what do window cleaning franchises actually do for you, in real terms?

Moderator David@stives

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Re: Window Cleaning Franchise Operations
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2006, 09:09:03 pm »
Tosh

its turnover for show

profit for dough

poleman

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Re: Window Cleaning Franchise Operations
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2006, 11:22:43 pm »
Or turn over for - Vanity & profit for - Sanity


Andy 

steveaqua

Re: Window Cleaning Franchise Operations
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2006, 09:47:48 am »
whats  c l e a n i n g p r o s  Poleman?

poleman

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Re: Window Cleaning Franchise Operations
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2006, 12:13:21 pm »
Its a rude word around theses part  ;D

Andy