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Paul Coleman

Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #80 on: December 14, 2011, 05:53:14 pm »
I can usually earn more in a day than I actually do but it's also about trusting my body to be able to sustain it.  I'm no spring chicken and yes, on a day of decent work I could fly around and probably do £300.  I don't really see the point of doing a number of days of £250 - £300 if I end up in pain and have to do a week of half days the following week.  Therefore I tend to do less - sometimes quite a bit less - and do a pace that I can sustain.  However, if I had a younger body I probably could sustain a higher pace for longer.  Over a day or three I can do as much as I ever could but I don't work a three day month  :) .

michael o

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #81 on: December 14, 2011, 05:55:15 pm »
I THINK THERES ALOT OF BILLY BULLpoop GOING ON HERE MAKING OUT THERE EARNIG MORE THAN WHAT THEY SAY ALL I CAN SAY IS WHY!!!!!!!!!!! WHERES MR KARL PILKINGTON THE BULLpoop MAN WHO SMELLS THE BULLpoop MMMMMMMM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


i agree,after reading old posts of how many houses they said they do figures dont add up,i go for 30 £5 semis £150 aday does me fine

Richard iSparkle

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #82 on: December 14, 2011, 06:52:06 pm »
I THINK THERES ALOT OF BILLY BULLpoop GOING ON HERE MAKING OUT THERE EARNIG MORE THAN WHAT THEY SAY ALL I CAN SAY IS WHY!!!!!!!!!!! WHERES MR KARL PILKINGTON THE BULLpoop MAN WHO SMELLS THE BULLpoop MMMMMMMM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


i agree,after reading old posts of how many houses they said they do figures dont add up,i go for 30 £5 semis £150 aday does me fine

if you do 30 semis a day then we're talking about the same sort of numbers.  its just we charge more for semis, more like £11- £15 a house.  with those prices you'd have the same turnover  ???
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Ian101

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #83 on: December 14, 2011, 06:57:37 pm »
Don't know about the figures and not really bothered but he works in some areas I do and you wouldn't believe how fast they go ... I'm talking seconds perpane of glass personally I'd be worried about the quality of job but guess he's not got a quality issue as still doing them .. What takes me 20 mins his lad was doing it in under 5 minutes !!!!!

hey ian!  i saw you on my round yesterday think it was lupins drive or something?  was looking out for you but you were round the back on my way and way out and was in a rush yesterday!!!  loved all the tinsel tho!  ;D

you wanna see it at night when I turn the fairy lights on !!  ;D

Richard iSparkle

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #84 on: December 14, 2011, 06:58:28 pm »
mmmmm..........!how come richard is earning a lot more money a day and he s only been at it 18 months?you must have some good priced posh accounts to be making £350-£400 a day when you work 9am-4pm!! ;D ;D ;D ;D

where are you based?if its around central london or surrey i believe you!!anywhere else and i think your pulling our legs!!

i dont know any one man bands that earn that per day on a regular basis on maintenance window cleaning.

anything from £150-£250 a day for me working 9pm-4pm with an hour for lunch/coffee breaks/moving van.

I live in Surrey and don't earn what Richard does,now that the darker nights are in I struggle to reach the £250.00 mark and the majority of my work is compact and well priced so I think somebodys telling porkies ;
However if I am wrong I doubt the standard of his work is very good


as i said the standard of my work is good enough for my customers as we dont loose a lot, we get referrals, and they tell me how good we are etc.

i'm not in business to win the competition to have the best cleanest windows in the country.  if the quality of pour work is 'good enough' for our customers, and remember we're charging them a premium for our service, then that is good enough for us.

perhaps if you struggle to hit £250 in the winter, you might think to look at what people are doing who are doing more and how they are doing it.  on the other hand you might well choose to dismiss what i'm saying as 'porkies' and then you can stick 'struggling' at around £250.   :o
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Richard iSparkle

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #85 on: December 14, 2011, 07:00:35 pm »
just going to step in here and defend Richard a little.Because of the advice he was given from concept and the way he prices jobs Richards average value is probably a lot higher than most on here also he unlike me and probably others he would select the properties he would clean as he started with wfp from the word go,unlike me and others i started trad and took any thing on so my values are lower than Richards but i do just as much work.
Richard does not collect again from the beginning he had his customers paying by standing orders,unlike me and others
He as a good system on board his vehicle doesn't seem have many problems.
In my opinion Richard is at the point most of us want to be at after say 5 years? by going down the franchise route he was advised well and is doing well

so f*****g well he as no time to talk to me on the round :'( :'( :-* :-*
(i dont think i havent noticed pal) ;D

thanks for having my back bob!

i;m just too bloody busy to stop nowadays as i;ve got to get my son from nursery....  when i;m late they charge £10 per 15 min!!!!!

we should meet up for a pint some evening tho?  :)
Cheaper than you charge for cleaning windows then!!!!!

 ;D that's tru isnt it!  hadn't thought of it like that.  it still seems a lot tho, and i work hard for that money.  they play pop up pirate for theirs!  ;D
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michael o

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #86 on: December 14, 2011, 07:04:11 pm »
I THINK THERES ALOT OF BILLY BULLpoop GOING ON HERE MAKING OUT THERE EARNIG MORE THAN WHAT THEY SAY ALL I CAN SAY IS WHY!!!!!!!!!!! WHERES MR KARL PILKINGTON THE BULLpoop MAN WHO SMELLS THE BULLpoop MMMMMMMM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


i agree,after reading old posts of how many houses they said they do figures dont add up,i go for 30 £5 semis £150 aday does me fine

if you do 30 semis a day then we're talking about the same sort of numbers.  its just we charge more for semis, more like £11- £15 a house.  with those prices you'd have the same turnover  ???£11/£15 for 3bed semi carnt get that round here


Richard iSparkle

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #87 on: December 14, 2011, 07:04:27 pm »
Richard,you just sound like a headless chicken,2 lads bringing £400 a day in and it wasn`t good enough for you,or was it not affordable to you in which case you are in a terrible trading position,you are off your rocker.That figure done regular as an average with 2 good reliable employees could be as good as it gets.Your head is full of Concept sh*t.Its a well know fact 2 men don`t double what 1 man can do.You are heading for a total collapse.

 :o  What a rude reply!

Like i said in a previous post, £400 a day for two lads isnt worth it if one lad can do £350.  £50 wont really even cover the extra wages.  that's not 'off my rocker' it simple common sense.

i;m not in a terrible position but as i said we had a fire last year.  it cost me over 25000 in lost business, lost equipment etc and i have as a result had to double my loan which needs repaying asap.

and quite how you translate the sort of round i've got and the time we can do it in...  after 18 months in as 'heading for total collapse' i dont know  ??? ??? ???
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♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #88 on: December 14, 2011, 07:09:19 pm »
Richard,you just sound like a headless chicken,2 lads bringing £400 a day in and it wasn`t good enough for you,or was it not affordable to you in which case you are in a terrible trading position,you are off your rocker.That figure done regular as an average with 2 good reliable employees could be as good as it gets.Your head is full of Concept sh*t.Its a well know fact 2 men don`t double what 1 man can do.You are heading for a total collapse.

 :o  What a rude reply!

Like i said in a previous post, £400 a day for two lads isnt worth it if one lad can do £350.  £50 wont really even cover the extra wages.  that's not 'off my rocker' it simple common sense.

i;m not in a terrible position but as i said we had a fire last year.  it cost me over 25000 in lost business, lost equipment etc and i have as a result had to double my loan which needs repaying asap.

and quite how you translate the sort of round i've got and the time we can do it in...  after 18 months in as 'heading for total collapse' i dont know  ??? ??? ???


I have a sneaky feeling he was referring to the "other" Richard! ;D

Richard iSparkle

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #89 on: December 14, 2011, 07:13:28 pm »
Richard,you just sound like a headless chicken,2 lads bringing £400 a day in and it wasn`t good enough for you,or was it not affordable to you in which case you are in a terrible trading position,you are off your rocker.That figure done regular as an average with 2 good reliable employees could be as good as it gets.Your head is full of Concept sh*t.Its a well know fact 2 men don`t double what 1 man can do.You are heading for a total collapse.

 :o  What a rude reply!

Like i said in a previous post, £400 a day for two lads isnt worth it if one lad can do £350.  £50 wont really even cover the extra wages.  that's not 'off my rocker' it simple common sense.

i;m not in a terrible position but as i said we had a fire last year.  it cost me over 25000 in lost business, lost equipment etc and i have as a result had to double my loan which needs repaying asap.

and quite how you translate the sort of round i've got and the time we can do it in...  after 18 months in as 'heading for total collapse' i dont know  ??? ??? ???


I have a sneaky feeling he was referring to the "other" Richard! ;D

do you think?..........  oh well  :o
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Dave Willis

Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #90 on: December 14, 2011, 07:23:27 pm »
 ??? why would you double your loan - surely you had insurance?

roundbuilder

Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #91 on: December 14, 2011, 07:26:21 pm »
What a mug. total crap. i work in amd around london day in day out and earn nowhere near the bullcrap figures you are coming out with.

Richard iSparkle

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #92 on: December 14, 2011, 07:26:37 pm »
??? why would you double your loan - surely you had insurance?

didnt have office insurance no!  i do now  :(

on a more sober note, there were i think over 50 businesses in the enterprise centre that was destroyed, and i dont know of any one of them has received their insurance payout yet, and it was over a year ago.. the companies are really dragging their feet and demanding lots of paperwork, receipts etc etc
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Richard iSparkle

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #93 on: December 14, 2011, 07:28:58 pm »
What a mug. total crap. i work in amd around london day in day out and earn nowhere near the bullcrap figures you are coming out with.

well mick kent, if you cant do it then i;m sure it must be rubbish.  especially as you live in london  ::)

maybe you're not as clever as you seem to think you are  :o
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roundbuilder

Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #94 on: December 14, 2011, 07:33:08 pm »
I love this guy. if u realy was earning the fi why would you put it on a forum. Dreamer.

Richard iSparkle

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #95 on: December 14, 2011, 07:37:10 pm »
I love this guy. if u realy was earning the fi why would you put it on a forum. Dreamer.

what does fi mean?  and why wouldnt i put it on a forum?  i was responding to a question asked by another local cleaner?

maybe the difference is that i am a dreamer and you are not.  the phrase 'you can only achieve what you can believe' comes to mind. 
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roundbuilder

Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #96 on: December 14, 2011, 07:43:34 pm »
Figure....well you say im not clever but you dnt hear me saying what i earn daily.
braggers tend to be blaggers.

Inside Out

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #97 on: December 14, 2011, 07:47:14 pm »
Would it be too much bother for you to take a video of yourself cleaning one of your customers propertys and put a link so we could see. If you are earning double most here I for one would like to see exactly what I am not doing correctly!?

Nameless Drudge

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #98 on: December 14, 2011, 08:00:07 pm »
Richard,you just sound like a headless chicken,2 lads bringing £400 a day in and it wasn`t good enough for you,or was it not affordable to you in which case you are in a terrible trading position,you are off your rocker.That figure done regular as an average with 2 good reliable employees could be as good as it gets.Your head is full of Concept sh*t.Its a well know fact 2 men don`t double what 1 man can do.You are heading for a total collapse.

 :o  What a rude reply!

Like i said in a previous post, £400 a day for two lads isnt worth it if one lad can do £350.  £50 wont really even cover the extra wages.  that's not 'off my rocker' it simple common sense.

i;m not in a terrible position but as i said we had a fire last year.  it cost me over 25000 in lost business, lost equipment etc and i have as a result had to double my loan which needs repaying asap.

and quite how you translate the sort of round i've got and the time we can do it in...  after 18 months in as 'heading for total collapse' i dont know  ??? ??? ???


I meant you were heading for total collapse as in phsically and mentally,how long have you been working alone at this pace?,not long i reckon,its not sustainable.

I`ll give you a clue as to where i`m coming from.It`s called working for yourself.That means not working for the bank,the office space owner,the franchisor and all those other "indispensable" overheads a "succesful" business man seems to need.What is the point in earning £350 a day if you get to keep none of it.

Two men taking £400 daily between them has to be good news even if the £350 a day superman gets to slacken off.I say you`ve made a mistake disrupting that.Where do you go if you lose that super guy?Is it projections on paper that make you so greedy.

Lastly,attach yourself with the adjective"veridical",it means, coinciding with reality. Common sense will appear of its own accord then.




Window Washers

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #99 on: December 14, 2011, 08:08:27 pm »
I love this guy. if u realy was earning the fi why would you put it on a forum. Dreamer.

what does fi mean?  and why wouldnt i put it on a forum?  i was responding to a question asked by another local cleaner?

maybe the difference is that i am a dreamer and you are not.  the phrase 'you can only achieve what you can believe' comes to mind. 
is that from napoleon hill think and grow rich ?
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)