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PureClean Window Cleaning Ltd

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #100 on: December 14, 2011, 08:17:28 pm »
i aim for £200 over about 4-5hrs. been a bit tough lately with the weather though.

mikecam

Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #101 on: December 14, 2011, 08:20:29 pm »

£11/£15 for 3bed semi carnt get that round here
Thats not true. Thats what i get from your neighbours!! I'm guessing that yours are fortnightly whereas mine are monthly? Anyway, thats another discussion......... but you certainley can get them prices, easily.

mikecam

Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #102 on: December 14, 2011, 08:27:35 pm »
after getting back into the cleaning side of things im just wondering what average sort of figure most sole cleaners try and achieve daily, i worked my balls off today on to be fair underpriced work on quite a nice estate and only did £163 prob should have been £185 if priced correctly.

just trying to see how my pace of work compares to others
This is a good question Richy, and i like the free exchange of facts here. I go for between £50 to £200 per day. Depending upon when my council tax is due, need to pay the eleccy bill etc..
 How much does a small company like you take a day to run two vans, pay four cleaners wages, your own wages and your sales directors wages? And, .....did your missus get a job in your office doing 'the paperwork' ? If so, how much does she get? I'm asking this as i'm thinking of going the same route as you,i'm looking to take some business qualifications and get a second van, or maybe even a full time employee first? Any pointers would be invaluable to me.

michael o

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #103 on: December 14, 2011, 08:36:22 pm »

£11/£15 for 3bed semi carnt get that round here
Thats not true. Thats what i get from your neighbours!! I'm guessing that yours are fortnightly whereas mine are monthly? Anyway, thats another discussion......... but you certainley can get them prices, easily.
hi,mike hows things,need your help,again, need trigger putting on my pole if you can help sometime,i know houses by mine get done for £10 amonth wfp,when i say £10  i dont get the job  :D :D

PureClean Window Cleaning Ltd

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #104 on: December 14, 2011, 08:42:04 pm »
to defend richard as ive just read the whole thread, and i know that if i had all my best priced houses in the same street one after each other i could make £560 9-5 with 1hr in breaks. thats based on 4 houses an hr at £20 each.

obviously never going to happen to me, i think my record is in the £300's. but dont call him a liar, £350 a day is possible.

actually my record is £450 but that was a 6hr commercial job, so it doesnt count! (which unfortunately had to go towards the £550 pole i had to buy for the job!)


mikecam

Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #105 on: December 14, 2011, 08:43:06 pm »

£11/£15 for 3bed semi carnt get that round here
Thats not true. Thats what i get from your neighbours!! I'm guessing that yours are fortnightly whereas mine are monthly? Anyway, thats another discussion......... but you certainley can get them prices, easily.
hi,mike hows things,need your help,again, need trigger putting on my pole if you can help sometime,i know houses by mine get done for £10 amonth wfp,when i say £10  i dont get the job  :D :D
Hi mate, i have some time on Sunday if thats any good, otherwise it'll have to be after crimmy.

Richard iSparkle

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #106 on: December 14, 2011, 08:46:49 pm »
I love this guy. if u realy was earning the fi why would you put it on a forum. Dreamer.

what does fi mean?  and why wouldnt i put it on a forum?  i was responding to a question asked by another local cleaner?

maybe the difference is that i am a dreamer and you are not.  the phrase 'you can only achieve what you can believe' comes to mind. 
is that from napoleon hill think and grow rich ?

its from that sort of stuff yes...  napoleon hill, tony robbins...  love all that stuff  :)
iSparkle Window Cleaning

www.isparklewindowcleaning.uk

Richard iSparkle

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #107 on: December 14, 2011, 08:58:08 pm »
Richard,you just sound like a headless chicken,2 lads bringing £400 a day in and it wasn`t good enough for you,or was it not affordable to you in which case you are in a terrible trading position,you are off your rocker.That figure done regular as an average with 2 good reliable employees could be as good as it gets.Your head is full of Concept sh*t.Its a well know fact 2 men don`t double what 1 man can do.You are heading for a total collapse.

 :o  What a rude reply!

Like i said in a previous post, £400 a day for two lads isnt worth it if one lad can do £350.  £50 wont really even cover the extra wages.  that's not 'off my rocker' it simple common sense.

i;m not in a terrible position but as i said we had a fire last year.  it cost me over 25000 in lost business, lost equipment etc and i have as a result had to double my loan which needs repaying asap.

and quite how you translate the sort of round i've got and the time we can do it in...  after 18 months in as 'heading for total collapse' i dont know  ??? ??? ???


I meant you were heading for total collapse as in phsically and mentally,how long have you been working alone at this pace?,not long i reckon,its not sustainable.

I`ll give you a clue as to where i`m coming from.It`s called working for yourself.That means not working for the bank,the office space owner,the franchisor and all those other "indispensable" overheads a "succesful" business man seems to need.What is the point in earning £350 a day if you get to keep none of it.

Two men taking £400 daily between them has to be good news even if the £350 a day superman gets to slacken off.I say you`ve made a mistake disrupting that.Where do you go if you lose that super guy?Is it projections on paper that make you so greedy.

Lastly,attach yourself with the adjective"veridical",it means, coinciding with reality. Common sense will appear of its own accord then.


I'm not exactly burning myself out at the moment working at this rate.  It's fine.  I go out 3 nights a week training and dancing, get home before 6 and play with my son and put him to bed, have breaks in the day...  the trick is to start on the glass at 8am every day.  by eleven o'clock the day still seems young, and i'll have got half way thru my round for the day.

i do have a lot of energy and am a driven person, and still  mid thirties...  but i dont want to carry on working on the van forever.  the plan is to get guys in to work daily on the van and i;ll look after the business.
iSparkle Window Cleaning

www.isparklewindowcleaning.uk

wfp master

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #108 on: December 14, 2011, 09:24:12 pm »
dancing thats intresting what kind of dancing.

Richard iSparkle

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #109 on: December 14, 2011, 09:30:32 pm »
dancing thats intresting what kind of dancing.

salsa!  love it  ;D  mambo to be specific...  if you're a dancer.  i used to teach when i started my first business, when i needed more money.  that and worked in starbucks
iSparkle Window Cleaning

www.isparklewindowcleaning.uk

windowswashed

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #110 on: December 14, 2011, 09:31:13 pm »
window cleaners on this site moan when they see new competition starting up in the area they work and they wonder why so many unemployed are starting up......its because some window cleaners brag how much dosh they earn in a day enticing others into this business.........when the competition gets tougher finding new work to replace old, just remember ;D

Frankybadboy

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #111 on: December 14, 2011, 09:41:03 pm »
i know someone who earned £150 for 50mins work :P :P :Pgreat a.

Dave Willis

Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #112 on: December 14, 2011, 09:48:35 pm »
What was she like? Did the mrs find out?

Frankybadboy

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #113 on: December 14, 2011, 09:50:42 pm »
What was she like? Did the mrs find out?
true as i speak ;) ;) nad he abit like a girl A TRIPPY ;D ;D ;D

richywilts

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #114 on: December 14, 2011, 11:13:58 pm »
after getting back into the cleaning side of things im just wondering what average sort of figure most sole cleaners try and achieve daily, i worked my balls off today on to be fair underpriced work on quite a nice estate and only did £163 prob should have been £185 if priced correctly.

just trying to see how my pace of work compares to others
This is a good question Richy, and i like the free exchange of facts here. I go for between £50 to £200 per day. Depending upon when my council tax is due, need to pay the eleccy bill etc..
 How much does a small company like you take a day to run two vans, pay four cleaners wages, your own wages and your sales directors wages? And, .....did your missus get a job in your office doing 'the paperwork' ? If so, how much does she get? I'm asking this as i'm thinking of going the same route as you,i'm looking to take some business qualifications and get a second van, or maybe even a full time employee first? Any pointers would be invaluable to me.

two vans myse,f and one other lad cleaning now still have chris in the office organising things and taking payments etc, do cold calling sending debt letters etc basically all the stuff id have too do after long day cleaning i admit iv tried to rush into being bigger than i am and its beginnning to take strain maybe i am naive, missus aint started yet no, and havent signed up to any college courses.

best pointer i could give is try and grow organically, keep deleting crap payers and messers and build up slow and steady with great customers with high prices
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

geoffreyspecht

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #115 on: December 14, 2011, 11:15:14 pm »
how many jobs are you doing for that richard

today i did 24 houses, some of them bigguns.  other days i;ve done 32 houses
i think your talking a load of rubbish
By yourself or with your staff?

Do your staff do more or less than you?

that's by myself.  i used to have a member of staff who was achieving similar.  had to let him go tho due as wage bill too hi (see previous post re the fire last year)

What did the fire do to cause you to let go a lad earning you £1700 per week!!! :o ;D

i wasn't earning that much.  somewhere around 1200/week

fire destroyed all my customer records for both businesses so lost all details of all of our work.  wiped out our phone system, computer databases et etc etc.

Window Washers

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #116 on: December 15, 2011, 05:40:24 am »
window cleaners on this site moan when they see new competition starting up in the area they work and they wonder why so many unemployed are starting up......its because some window cleaners brag how much dosh they earn in a day enticing others into this business.........when the competition gets tougher finding new work to replace old, just remember ;D
Same thing different year  ;)
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

Pope vader

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #117 on: December 15, 2011, 07:38:42 am »
a lot of custy look at what you get per house  say £15 for 10 mins work,  then think i can do that,  start searching  find this place and think  christ a mim of 30 ph  350 a day,  sod working going to become a wc  and then people come on here moaing that a new wc has taken all there good work and driving down local prices

Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #118 on: December 15, 2011, 03:39:04 pm »
what about the nice little tax bill. you simply cannot earn that on your own,with private custys only.
UNLESS. many jobs close together and near home , no breaks, short intervals between cleans,
4wks, not cleaning frames, and then to top it off, over pricing. 
maybe the odd day , but every day?

 

KS Cleaning

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Re: what do most sole operators try and achieve daily
« Reply #119 on: December 15, 2011, 05:51:59 pm »
Looking forward to seeing the £50 + per hour brigade on the next series of watchdog...Rogues Gallery ;D