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Phillip Mold

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Groupon Failure?
« on: December 13, 2011, 01:34:59 pm »
Had a call this morning from a potential custy wanting a clean before Christmas, had to explain fully booked but they have accepted a quote for the new year. Interesting they had bought a Groupon voucher "But the company have let us down". 
Doing the best job in the world as well as I can

Re: Groupon Failure?
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2011, 01:50:02 pm »
there is a lot of it about Phillip  :P :P

Helen

Re: Groupon Failure?
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2011, 08:54:59 pm »
Had a call this morning from a potential custy wanting a clean before Christmas, had to explain fully booked but they have accepted a quote for the new year. Interesting they had bought a Groupon voucher "But the company have let us down". 

Did you ask in what way had they been let down?

Jim_77

Re: Groupon Failure?
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2011, 12:47:00 am »
They turned up.

Re: Groupon Failure?
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2011, 06:42:46 am »
That aint nice Jim

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Groupon Failure?
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2011, 08:15:14 am »
Anyone know how that guy in Scotland is doing after selling over 600 deals covering most the the South of Scotland?

Simon

Billy Russell

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Re: Groupon Failure?
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2011, 10:05:39 am »
Anyone know how that guy in Scotland is doing after selling over 600 deals covering most the the South of Scotland?

Simon


Yes, he's carving a great career out at mcdonalds!!!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D


Re: Groupon Failure?
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2011, 12:27:46 pm »
It still aint nice.

More than a few members of this forum have done groupon deals, and I don't believe any of them deserve the implication here.....

Re: Groupon Failure?
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2011, 02:50:11 pm »
Im really glad you think that groupon fails.

Ive done it about 6 months now, ok the money is crap i sold 400 deals, out of them 400 (280) are repeat customers for next year, and out of them 400 about 300 had a extra service from us. These are just rounded up figures, but it works for us so dont knock it until you try it, amazing my first post as well. and also ad least they pay as well.I would rather work then sit here.

Buckland

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Re: Groupon Failure?
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2011, 02:58:33 pm »
Hector you and Jason are no doubt the exceptions to the rule but I think alot of non-groupies feel this thing is going to impact in a negative way on ALL carpet cleaners and it is a legitimate subject for debate on a forum like this - Ive worked with Jason and I know he is sound...

BTW i notice there is a new offer going on near me in all SO and SP areas by a company calling itself combined cleaning - it APPEARS to me as if this is a group of smaller operators ganging together just to hoover up (geddit) alot of pre-xmas business - when you look at the website it has a 50 for MAINTENANCE clean two rooms offer which they have used as the basis for the groupon disc of 62% off - so they are getting half of 19 squid plus whatever they can upsell

what is really interesting is the FAQ on their site about the nature of the maintenance clean - I quote


·   ''What is a maintenance clean?
·   A clean that manufacturers recommend at least once a year to prevent the build up of ground in dirt and stop the appearance of traffic lanes. It will not remove visible staining or traffic lanes.

Well correct me if Im wrong but on every carpet job i've turned up to for the last ten years the owner has booked us specifically because they want us to remove visible staining (as opposed to invisible!) and traffic lanes - I suppose it gives them a getout if the customer kicks up later...

Also am I the only one who thinks the groupon school of copywriting is so 'out to lunch' that they could hardly be held to task for anything tangible in the offer as it is all so... how shall I put it... loose and in parts non-sensical - look at the copy for the combined offer:

''Discolouration can be a feature of carpets, books, and silent monochrome movies. Restore cinematic colour with today’s Groupon: £19 for a professional carpet clean for two rooms at Combined Cleaning Services.

Sprucing up carpets with speedy drying times, Combined Cleaning Services sweep up all manner of houses and fabrics in Southampton. The family run business turns their brushes and tools to reviving aging carpets, and also tackles stains on upholstery and rugs, as well as deodorising tell-tale pet smells from tail wagging homes. The fully insured team uses state-of-the-art equipment to deep clean furnishings and fluffy floors, with speedy drying times spanning up to four hours.

Homes can get two rooms measuring up to a combined 300 square foot expertly cleansed. Dust bunnies and fluffy residue will be sucked up and scrubbed out by the technician and their specialist cleaning machine over the course of approximately one hour. Most furniture can be moved beforehand on request, and clients can also enjoy a 25% discount on further cleaning services booked for the same day, meaning homes can feel pampered from floor to floor.''


I suppose at 19 quid some people can just put it down to experience but if they DO have a bad experience it affects the whole of our industry and not the people who have maybe already moved on to some other business that is easier to make money at...

anyways about thats my take on it...
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Andrew Briscoe

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Re: Groupon Failure?
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2011, 04:01:48 pm »
The thing i dont like about a lot of these groupon deals is the small print they have tucked away in there t & c's,
surely what the customer wants and us as the sevice provider is an honest price,
and a first class service. Then everyone is happy, groupon basically turns a
£10 million pound industry into £4.5 million pound industry .

Small print above is to be used as an example only, actual figures may vary, results based on polyamide carpets only, no gaurantee provided, see you in an hour. wick back next week will be out of gaurantee. anything left on carpet will be vacced around.   ;D

Andrew

jasonl

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Re: Groupon Failure?
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2011, 04:04:20 pm »
Like I have already said Groupon customers are mainly not daft , they know a man and a van cannot visit and perform a service for £34 they expect to pay more , they expect it to be bare service for £34 , what htey want is no risk , and to see who they are employing first, then if they like the service they can and do come back.
I clean carpets
I dry Buildings

Richard Basey-Fisher

  • Posts: 260
Re: Groupon Failure?
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2011, 04:08:48 pm »
Im really glad you think that groupon fails.

Ive done it about 6 months now, ok the money is crap i sold 400 deals, out of them 400 (280) are repeat customers for next year, and out of them 400 about 300 had a extra service from us. These are just rounded up figures, but it works for us so dont knock it until you try it, amazing my first post as well. and also ad least they pay as well.I would rather work then sit here.

david this is by no means a personal attack   just how can you say   280 out 0f 400 are repeat customers when you have not actually repeated any work for them  .  I am afraid a statistic like that is only true when it happens .   Also are you charging full price next time or are you going to clean at a discounted rate.   Correct me if i am wrong but sounds like your counting your chickens before they have hatched

Colin Day

Re: Groupon Failure?
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2011, 04:13:45 pm »
... And Richard knows all about chickens... He has 20ft high ones in a huge coup, and the public are not allowed to see them. ;) (Quote from Alan Partridge)

He also has 3 legged chickens... How do they taste? Dunno, no one's ever caught one!!! ;D

Helen

Re: Groupon Failure?
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2011, 04:19:41 pm »
Im really glad you think that groupon fails.

Ive done it about 6 months now, ok the money is crap i sold 400 deals, out of them 400 (280) are repeat customers for next year, and out of them 400 about 300 had a extra service from us. These are just rounded up figures, but it works for us so dont knock it until you try it, amazing my first post as well. and also ad least they pay as well.I would rather work then sit here.

I'm glad that it works well for you.......but don't count your chickens on the 280 that said they would come back next year....unless of course you will be offering them a similar deal:) 

Richard Basey-Fisher

  • Posts: 260
Re: Groupon Failure?
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2011, 04:24:02 pm »
... And Richard knows all about chickens... He has 20ft high ones in a huge coup, and the public are not allowed to see them. ;) (Quote from Alan Partridge)

He also has 3 legged chickens... How do they taste? Dunno, no one's ever caught one!!! ;D

excuse colin   he has been snorting his spm  he has been selling in 5 wraps in cornwall   ( ps his words not mine )

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Groupon Failure?
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2011, 04:50:57 pm »
Like I have already said Groupon customers are mainly not daft , they know a man and a van cannot visit and perform a service for £34 they expect to pay more , they expect it to be bare service for £34 , what htey want is no risk , and to see who they are employing first, then if they like the service they can and do come back.

That is it odds with a lot of the stories going around about people's experiences of Groupon. A Meal Deal in a pub for instance, the guy said the majority turn up, get the cheap meal with no extras and go. It is the very fact that it is cheap that is the clincher for most so the idea that they are falling over themselves to pay more seems a little far fetched to me. Jason seems to think that although people have paid £34 for two rooms and a hall done, they don't really expect to pay that and full expect to pay more. If I buy a toaster the sales for £29.99, I don't expect to pay more for it when I get to the store, even though I know the stores is probably losing money on it. Following Jason's logic I should expect to pay an extra fiver for the box it is in.

Simon

Simon

steve cardy

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Re: Groupon Failure?
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2011, 05:10:52 pm »
i dont see why anybody who has bought a groupon deal for carpet cleaning would expect a bare cleaning service they havnt bought a £34.00 clean they bought a £90.00 or £100.00 cleaning service reduced to £34.00. I also dont see how by buying a groupon deal is less risk than by using any other service you have found on the internet.

Re: Groupon Failure?
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2011, 05:20:25 pm »
All I was saying is that I did not like the implication by Jim that all cleaners who did groupon deals were splash and dash cowboys.....