[Jim_77]

Last time I concentrated that long it was a film called toy story!

[Mark Lawrence]

Agree with Jim 100% 

I also think its safe to say that he is misguided and over analizes absolutely everything. He cant settle on a marketing message - instead he has many and really has no focus to remain consistent.

He's just as bad with his area that he works. He is a one man band but travels as far as from chelmsford in essex right up to cambridge, his working radius must be 60 miles at least - and travelling to do cheap work. Its a  really bizar business model.

Just an observation.

Mark

[gwrightson]

Well,
i must say i read every word of Jims post, agreed with every word and basicly  said exactly what i was thinking , only Jim did manage to put it more eloquently than i would





Insert Quote 
Quote from: C.C. Salisbury (it is I...... Hector) on Yesterday at 06:40:02 pm
There is a very very expensive house in Winchester in the expensive part of Winchester that we had to walk away from....

Staircase that would look about right on the QE2 (no problem) at the top a landing and hall that if I looked through binoculars I may have seen the other end, however it stunk to high heaven..


"oh this is dog $h1t alley" said the owner, "we let the boys play here as though it was outside, sort it out will you?"

We did leave that one

Would not have done it with a porty either.....

However TM?? nah not a chance    "



Obviously,  never seen what heights and capabilities a t/mis capable off 

Geoff


 

[derek west]

Last time I read that much it was a book by Tolstoy.

Shaun

yeah right shaun, don't you mean toy story

[Steve Rothwell]

Obviously,  never seen what heights and capabilities a t/mis capable off  Grin

Geoff

Simon showed me his monster and let me hold his hose the other month 

what I meant was that there was so much $h1t there that the TM would have to be taken apart and cleaned properly so would not be worth the time and effort.....

 

[ian harper]

Jim

[Tony Gill Carpet Smart]

Jim BIG BOY'S TOY'S lol  .

[Colin Day]

Jim & Mark

you are very rude. i will not reply as you have got personal.

ian

I actually thought Mark was describing Jim when I read "he over analizes absolutely everything"

 

[Dennis]

Last time I read that much it was a book by Tolstoy.

Shaun

Spend Less, Save More by Bert Tolstoy?   

[garry22]

Last time I read that much it was a book by Tolstoy

He said he read it. He did not say anything about finishing it.   

[mike roberts]

Jim & Mark

you are very rude. i will not reply as you have got personal.

ian

I actually thought Mark was describing Jim when I read "he over analizes absolutely everything"

 

Same here  as he travels about the same distance   

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Denis how did you know? Saying that you do have to have it in the first place (unlike poor me)

War and peace is a great book and it kept me warm as I was trying to read it in the public library.

Shaun

[Jim_77]

Sorry you feel like that Ian.  Sometimes the kid gloves come off when I take up an issue with someone.

I stand by everything I've said above.

Could it be that you simply don't have any response to my comments?

[ian harper]

Jim

[Nigel_W]

Just so others know there is no relationship between low price and low profit. but there is between high overhead and high price

Ian,

On behalf of others - What the hell does that mean

Nigel

[will_turton]

 nigel think ian doesn't know himself, i'll get me coat

[wynne jones]

Low prices are fine if you KNOW you are making a profit, unfortunately I don't think many do until they have to pay tax or something expensive goes bang.

If you get it right though you can employ people to do the work. Most people however will want to stay a one man band and I think you are doing yourself a real disservice if you under value your work.

One man bands who are growing invariably want a more powerful machine so they can do even more work, they can also put their prices up. The opposite also applies of course, so if someone goes back to a portable from a TM that is in my mind a marketing FAIL. No disrespect to those who have done it, I know some have a helper instead, but that's just a different way to do more work.

   

[Jim_77]

Ian, with "respects" you don't know what the hell MY customers think!  Just because the list you bought contains ex-customers of a franchisee in the same network as me (I presume that's what you're inferring) doesn't mean they are the same type of customer, does it?!

The type of customer attracted by a business depends on many variables, probably the most influential being the type of marketing employed.  Mine most certainly are not over-conscious about price so therefore if yours are, then we're not serving the same type of customers!

Maybe the guy went under because he was attracting the wrong sort of customer?!

Have to agree with Nigel, your last sentence makes no sense at all

Financially speaking, the only relationship that matters is turnover vs profit margin

[elliott cleaning]

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..........Just so others know there is no relationship between low price and low profit. but there is between high overhead and high price
[/quote]

Ouch! That really is a bizarre comment. Did you actually mean to post that??
Of course there are relationships between different things - they might not be the same but you can still relate them.
As I'm not the brightest - can you clarify what you actually meant, Ian?

[Richard Basey-Fisher]

why oh why does everybody think a tm costs a fortune to buy and run .