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Simon Gerrard

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Wand Marks
« on: November 26, 2011, 01:29:30 pm »
Did a job for a first time customer today who didn't go back to her last cc'er because he left wand marks in the carpet. She didn't tell me that until I had finished and had brushed out the wands marks which I do as a matter of course.
Anyone leave them in?

Simon

AshWhite

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Re: Wand Marks
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2011, 01:32:22 pm »
I think they look bloody terrible. Some cleaners like to leave them in as it makes it obvious the carpet has been cleaned (I think thats the reason!), but personally I always try to brush them out ASAP.
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wayne zabel

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Re: Wand Marks
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2011, 01:33:03 pm »
I always ask the customer what they want me to do,leave them or regroom the carpet.The majority have them left in.

Steve. Taylor

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Re: Wand Marks
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2011, 01:33:19 pm »
70 30 sometimes but not going to after reading this ;D

Right that's it customers car has arrived on my drive full valet inside of the cream leather and repair the 3 holes on the dashboard the mobile phone bracket left. ::)
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gwrightson

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Re: Wand Marks
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2011, 01:36:05 pm »

i think they look good, and some cleaners do brush them out, maybe because they think they doing a better job ;)

and 99percent of my custy.s like them :)

Geoff
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Mark Lawrence

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Re: Wand Marks
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2011, 02:49:41 pm »
I think they look ridiculous tbh. I have had custies before asking if there will be any 'triangles' after cleaning cos they hate them aswell. Each to their own I suppose but tend to echo Ash's comments.

Mark

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Wand Marks
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2011, 02:55:24 pm »
I hate them and most customers do too. I don't think the carpet looks finished off when their are marks in it. Each their own though.
Simon

JandS

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Re: Wand Marks
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2011, 02:58:30 pm »
I think they look good.
When I've finished wanding and gone round the edges
I put the wand back on and back out getting rid of my
footprint..

John
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Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Wand Marks
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2011, 03:22:51 pm »
I brush them out with my adapted pile rake, to add a bit of weight to it and aid in brushing some tough ones out I bolted 2 heads together bit of an exensive brush but life is so much easier when doing velvet crush piles or royal kashan.

Shaun

robert meldrum

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Re: Wand Marks
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2011, 03:35:12 pm »
Answer to original question............yes.............. I have very, very rarely  felt the need or perceived a benefit from brushing / combing.

The purists will say, but it's in the manual and so and so said we should.

Following vacuuming identical marks are left behind .........do you believe your customers brush them out ?  No don't think so.

derek west

Re: Wand Marks
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2011, 03:36:11 pm »
i never get them in the first place, i only drag dry,

Steve Chapman

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Re: Wand Marks
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2011, 04:26:40 pm »
I seriously had to go back to a customer a number of years ago, I had cleaned his Lounge while he was out and left the wand marks in as I thought it looked like I'd done a good job, he phoned me up and said he had a real phobia of 'triangles' and couldn't go in the room, he was really serious and quite upset, I had go back to him about 10 at night and brush them out  >:(

Ever since then I've been careful to not leave them, although I think it really makes no difference at all to the clean, it's just peoples perception of what looks good.


Regards
Steve

andrew christopher

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Re: Wand Marks
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2011, 05:35:46 pm »
I brushed them out on a rental clean and the tenant asked me to "put them back" so when he handed over keys it would be even more obvious they had been cleaned.

He associated the triangles with the carpets being cleaned


Simon Gerrard

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Re: Wand Marks
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2011, 05:40:04 pm »
One of our first cruise liner bosses hated wand marks and asked this simple but telling question, 'Were they there before you started?' Answer, 'No.' 'So why are they there now?'

Simon

Jim_77

Re: Wand Marks
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2011, 06:03:11 pm »
On cut pile....

I always put a groomer over wool carpets, because the wand tracks can set really badly when dry.

Nylon, I mostly always groom because the patterns are very distinct due to the pile being very flexible

Polyprop, almost never, the wand tracks don't show up anywhere near so much and the pile springs back almost by itself.  Certainly after a little bit of foot traffic and a quick vacuum it'll be ship shape.

I Don't groom any loop pile except wool if the loops are quite big and wand tracks noticeable

By the way let's not forget the primary purpose of grooming after extraction - to stand/open the pile up which allows the water to evaporate quicker, shortening drying times ;)

Re: Wand Marks
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2011, 06:06:26 pm »
As a rule I always rake out (presentation, speeds up drying, pile memory), except with some rentals where you want to prove that the carpet cleaner has been in, afterall no one else could possibly leave such a wonderful patten.

john sliman

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Re: Wand Marks
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2011, 06:42:24 pm »
groom caret on every job as i think it finishes the job off and the customer certainly does see the advantage of having their carpet profesionally cleaned as it does leave the carpet looking good.
john sliman

Jamie Lindsay

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Re: Wand Marks
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2011, 06:52:57 pm »
hahahahaha  steve you at the wind up.... am in knots of laughter at that one hahaha

Paul Moss

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Re: Wand Marks
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2011, 06:57:47 pm »
i never get them in the first place, i only drag dry,

You really should not smoke when cleaning.

wynne jones

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Re: Wand Marks
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2011, 07:15:10 pm »
In a hurry with a cheapo, up and down zig zag. More time people paying more the wand leaves no marks and no grooming required. Shoot me for being so mercenary.
It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.