[Carl Anderson]

hi,

Ive recently purchased a few quids worth of chemicals for my new start up venture.

My question is, do you have to strictly adhere to the recomendations on the boxes ie if te instructions say use a certain product with this product is it just for their own up sales or something i need to stick to strictly?

Also do i risk damage mixing certain cemicals ie prespray with extactor chemicals combos

I am booked on with the ncca next week but would like a head start.

This is what ive bought:
Crystal green
Power Burst
Prespray gold
Fibresafe gold
Citrus gel
Solvex
Coffee Stain Remover
Citraboost
 

 

[Paul Redden Countryfresh]

Most chems not wise to mix and prochem chems are quite potent so stick to recomendations for dilution. You can add  C. Boost to prespray tho.

You will get more detailed answers on the course.

[Jamie Pearson]

This is what ive bought:
Crystal green
Power Burst
Prespray gold
Fibresafe gold
Citrus gel
Solvex
Coffee Stain Remover
Citraboost
 

That should cover all bases as far as carpet cleaning goes. You might want to get some B109 Fibre & Fabric Rinse with your next order should you decide to tackle rugs or upholstery or use powerburst on trashed wool. Stick with the recommendations on that lot Prochem products are nicely packaged with colour coded labels and liquids/powders to coincide with their pH. You will learn the importance of pH on your NCCA course. If you don't understand how it works listen closely. Once you fully understand it you can solve most soiling problems by correctly choosing the right products from your arsenal.. Especially with Crystal Green as overdosing that stuff can sometimes lead to pump problems if left sitting in the machine. A good flush through with some hot water, even with some fibre & fabric rinse will keep your system healthy.

[mike roberts]

As above + some prochem chems can be mixed , prochem course supplies compatability sheet may be able to source this via your supplier.

[Simon Gerrard]

Carl,
It doesn't like you know what you are doing and if that is the case you should be aware that you can do an awful lot of damage very quickly by not knowing what you are doing. Do the Prochem training course, it is easily the best and then knowing a bit more of what you're doing venture out and work in customers homes.

Simon

[Carl Anderson]

I'm not venturing into people's homes til I've done my course don't worry. Going to do a few courses throughout the year. Was just attempting to gain a bit of knowledge prior to going on any courses. Thanks for your replies.

[gaz1984mcc]

Best advice i can give you is to ignore alot of the panic mongers on here cause thats all they are. Have you ever cleaned a car before? Lol good chance its worth alot more than someones dirty carpet did you think oh no i best take a course before i attempt cleaning it? NO lmao after all its just a carpet and its very easy to clean one. If you listened to alot of the people on here you would think you were attempting brain surgery well you aint its just cleaning carpets. Im a new starter and though ive only spent a couple of grand on equipment i always do a good job i never leave a customers home thinking ive let them down if you have pride in your work even if it takes you a bit longer to do the job sometimes do your best and you should get it right. Give it a go mate if you really go for it you wont regret it.

[jim mca]

Gaz

Treatment risk insurance can be invalid if you cant prove you are competent to carry out the work
if you dont have this insurance you could be liable for any damage you cause

Jim

[Doug Holloway]

Hi guys

Carl one of the most important things is to stick to the recommended dilutions and do not over wet.

CC is more complex than some make it but rocket science it is not.

Good luck.

Doug

[Simon Gerrard]

Best advice i can give you is to ignore alot of the panic mongers on here cause thats all they are. Have you ever cleaned a car before? Lol good chance its worth alot more than someones dirty carpet did you think oh no i best take a course before i attempt cleaning it? NO lmao after all its just a carpet and its very easy to clean one. If you listened to alot of the people on here you would think you were attempting brain surgery well you aint its just cleaning carpets. Im a new starter and though ive only spent a couple of grand on equipment i always do a good job i never leave a customers home thinking ive let them down if you have pride in your work even if it takes you a bit longer to do the job sometimes do your best and you should get it right. Give it a go mate if you really go for it you wont regret it.

With respect you are confusing professionalism with scare mongering. Any self respeting professional person, especially one hoping to build a long term relationship with a customer should know what he is doing. The day you screw something up and end up having to replace a couple of grands worth of carpet, as a carpet cleaner near me had to do recently, is the day you may wish you'd took the training and not been so flippant.

Simon

[mike roberts]

Well said Simon

Gaz... where did that post come from   Carl was asking about chems / concentrations and you come up with that post eh .. guys on here are giving advice not scare mongering.

Have you done any training

[gaz1984mcc]

ive done some training but not what you lot are all talking about. (ie paying someone to show me) i mean going round all my friends and family. And my friends family's. and reading up on here and various other websites. plus using chemicals at there recommended dosages. its still training the best way you learn is by doing the job

[gaz1984mcc]

Carl,
It doesn't like you know what you are doing

Simon

Thats where my comment came from and its that sort of attitude i dont like because he asked a question about chems and thats the sort of attitude he gets.

[derek west]

Best advice i can give you is to ignore alot of the panic mongers on here cause thats all they are. Have you ever cleaned a car before? Lol good chance its worth alot more than someones dirty carpet did you think oh no i best take a course before i attempt cleaning it? NO lmao after all its just a carpet and its very easy to clean one. If you listened to alot of the people on here you would think you were attempting brain surgery well you aint its just cleaning carpets. Im a new starter and though ive only spent a couple of grand on equipment i always do a good job i never leave a customers home thinking ive let them down if you have pride in your work even if it takes you a bit longer to do the job sometimes do your best and you should get it right. Give it a go mate if you really go for it you wont regret it.

what a stupid comparison, are you saying a car can shrink?

i can just see it now on the car cleaning forum, "help, ive just cleaned a peugeot 306 and over wet it and its now a peogeot 206, do you know a mechanic who can stratch it back into a 306, should i wait til its dry first"

different things clean differently, cleaning a million pound painting isn't rocket science but i certainly wouldn't use cilit bang and a duster. basic training is all we usually state on here, its the guys that aren't trained that exaggerate us and make out we think its rocket science, far from it but common sense says get some basic training.
enjoy the ncca course, it will tell you all you need to know to get started. as for mixing!!! theres no real need to mix, and if there is, it usually says so on the container what it can be mixed with. good luck.

[Mike Halliday]

If you want to mix chemicals they you want to increase or decrease ph or 'strength' or kill 2 birds with 1 stone.....eg: clean & deodorise simultaneously

I find most chemical instruction labels have a comprehensive guide to what they can be mixed with...... so unless it say it on the label for now don't mix them

Prochem used to Colour co-ordinate their labels to aid their mixing.... I don't know if they still do

[gaz1984mcc]

the point im making is not that i think training is a waste of time cause its not as i did joinery for 8 years and i know its important. but however its not the be all and end all don't give everyone the impression that you cant A: cant clean a carpet without it B: you cant learn it yourself cause you can C: without it your business will fail

[AshWhite]

Part of the attraction for me was being able to take more risks because you understand what the outcome is likely to be, otherwise I'd be cleaning everything with prespray gold, and acid rinsing at 40 degress just to play it safe.

So its not just about knowing what you can do wrong, but what you can do right (if that makes sense).

Anyway, the whole discussion is obsolete cos the poor bloke has already stated that he's booked on a course.

[mike roberts]

Carl,
It doesn't like you know what you are doing

Simon

Thats where my comment came from and its that sort of attitude i dont like because he asked a question about chems and thats the sort of attitude he gets.

Sorry but his attitude is spot on and thats not his full post - you have simply taken a snippet of his post.
Following on from your posts ..I think you have mistaken 'training' with 'practicing'!
As you havent done any training.... wonder what your customers would think if they new that and what insurance do you have ?

[gaz1984mcc]

practising - training exactly the same thing when you learnt to ride a bike as a child you would practice until you got it right (its the same thing) mike

[gaz1984mcc]

and i do have insurance mike i aint that daft