[mike roberts]

Just wondered if anyone lays this type of surface??

We have refurbished a few in the last 6 mths fantastic  results - Due to lay one next wk !

[Kenny83]

I know a bit abou it, it's gonn be the new PIC I reckon, will you be laying the epoxy or PU system?
Also is it the bound (trowel) or bonded (scatter coat) system your doing? how much did you quote per m2?

[mike roberts]

seems to be getting more pop looks great if used in the right areas. as said refurb a few this yr with care wash treat acry seal

Gone for the trowel down method so no lose stones as will need to be washed in future - looking around £25/m profit , but as existing custy using it to gain experience nice small area. Just hope weather keeps mild 

[Kenny83]

yeah, so is it epoxy or PU resins you will be using? who's supplying it to you mate? i spent almost 12 months looking in to it as i had a contract lined up but never saw it out as it got to winter by the time everything was ready. Would be interested in having a chat with you to see how it goes for you mate.
good luck with it mate

[mike roberts]

its resin based (2 part resin / hardener) product supplied via PICS we use them gen for tarmac coating, gen seals no prob, would only use this on light wearing areas patios / pathways as their rec thicknes only 6mm, I know some are double or treble that. Really using it as a tester let u know how it goes but down to weather!

[Kev Martin]

We lay a lot of this in shops.  It is only 3mm thick trowelled on it's really hard wearing

Kev Martin
Marble Life Ltd

[Blast Away]

We lay a lot of this in shops.  It is only 3mm thick trowelled on it's really hard wearing

Kev Martin
Marble Life Ltd

3mm Kev?

[Kenny83]

It's probably got a tiny aggregate in it then, more like a slurry I would have thought, almost like a grain as the thickness of the resin has to be at least double the size of the biggest aggregate, mike will probably be using 1 - 3mm aggreagte hence 6mm thickness, if you use 2 - 5 mm aggresgate then it would be 10mm thick, if on more heavy tafficked areas then anything as much as 21mm, reommennded a minumum of 15mm on driveways unless using epoxy you can go to down 10mm.

[mike roberts]

It's probably got a tiny aggregate in it then, more like a slurry I would have thought, almost like a grain as the thickness of the resin has to be at least double the size of the biggest aggregate, mike will probably be using 1 - 3mm aggreagte hence 6mm thickness, if you use 2 - 5 mm aggresgate then it would be 10mm thick, if on more heavy tafficked areas then anything as much as 21mm, reommennded a minumum of 15mm on driveways unless using epoxy you can go to down 10mm.

yep its 1-2mm... dont think i would use process on driveways, have seen a few trowel down method (around 10mm thk as you say larger agr) which have been  ripped apart locally due to tight turning circles... my plan is for only small projects alleyways etc will produce instant transformation + cheaper compared to rip up and lay blocks etc. With maint in future for either washing or algae treatment. I know they rec 2 man team to mix / lay will try it by myself to see if feasible..   When Kev lays it in shops obviously subject to far less wear just foot traffic assume 3mm acceptable.

[Matt Gibson]

Anyone got a link to this stuff?

[Kenny83]

3mm is acceptable as long as the aggregate is less than 1.5mm, it looks good indoors, sometimes called 'stone carpets'.
Also if using a white stone then the UV stable version has to be used otherwise it turns yellow, not a proble if using darker stone such as red, brown, etc
Matt, just google resin bound aggregate mate, theres a few suppliers

[Kev Martin]

3mm is all it is and as tough as nuts when it's cured but your right it is only foot traffic in shops apart from the odd cherry picker, awp and scissor lifts.  We put down a 175M2 last Sunday night actually.

Kev Martin
Marble Life Ltd

[mike roberts]

Job done... only small area but ideal as a starter ... what a difference  certainly another service we can offer, Completed it on Friday been back today to seal PIC job, customer really happy and have gained a few referals 

[Kenny83]

nice 1, did you use a forced action mixer? Where did you get the resin from mate?

[mike roberts]

nice 1, did you use a forced action mixer? Where did you get the resin from mate?

yer just hired it in for a day..... Product we used was PICSBOND from PICS UK, in fairness worked really well I managed to apply primer, whilst  mixing resin / hardener /stones primer went tacky then layed, as it was mild had a longer cure time .. summer time would need one mixing atleast one laying.

Man the stuff sticks to everything  took about an hour to clean mixer 

[Kenny83]

xylene/solvent cleans that stuff well when it's tacky

[mike roberts]

xylene/solvent cleans that stuff well when it's tacky

yer I know, You have to damp the trowel constantly with xylene in order to spread / compact 

But you cant clean mixer properly until your finished    Left some on top of trowel thinking it would easily break away as metal er... no 

[Kenny83]

lol, solid stuff isn't it. how did you go on with edgings? Did you put your own up or was the some already in places? ie kerb set, etc...
just curios because i've seen some driveways metal like stips along the sides

[mike roberts]

particular job was an alley way hence wall either side .. had a few flower beds which i used cut tegulars, cleaned it a week b4 layed them at same time, layed bond wk later