Mick I got one of those standoffs last week it colapsed on me and i fell only cut my hands though but there still sore none the less
don't bother with rojak because its a pain to carry aroundi have articulated rubber feet, oblong ones, with 'studds' (got em from lansfords)tried once standing on the bottom rung with ladders at 45o, still gripped. (i obviously always clean windows at 45o now!)ben