[Inside Out]

tx limit depends on your tax code. normally around £6500 before you have to pay tax. 125ish per week

[Pope vader]

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/your_money/employment/contracts_of_employment.htm#what_if_the_employer_wants_an_employee_to_switch_to_selfemployed_status

http://www.thisisgrimsby.co.uk/Staff-win-fight-zero-hours-contract/story-11548143-detail/story.html

[Inside Out]

I had this situation a few months back. i sold some work and kept the cream. you have to be careful employing - especially with winter coming up! if you contract somebody and employ them, you will still have to pay a wage if we have another big freeze! 3 weeks last year!

you dont have to pay them.  you can put them on holiday for the period.  also pretty standard to add to their contract that they have to work weekends etc if the business requires it.  so if you cannot work put them on holiday and make them make up the hours on days that are workable.  saying that there was only 1 day we couldnt work last year, but we go out all weathers so long as the equipment will work.

i cant imagine you would keep good lads very long if you dictated their hours in this way!? and come winter, do many people have much holiday left after taking normaly a couple of weeks in the summer!?

and as for not working one day only - excuse tone, i hate written conversations, they can come across argumental when they are in no way intended to be - i only didnt work as waorried about ice forming around paths and access to propertys!? how did you manage this problem?

[AshWhite]

Pope - the 0 hours Grimsby story was about a complaint that had been uphelp about the end of their old contracts, not the start of the new '0' hour contracts.

I'm not saying I agree or disagree with them, but if I was desperate I'd rather a 0 hour contract than no job at all. As has been mentioned, staff are unlikely to hang around for long once a better offer comes along.

[Pope vader]

i know what you are saying,  but it wont be long before some judge says they are illegal and bans them

[Dougaldum]

tx limit depends on your tax code. normally around £6500 before you have to pay tax. 125ish per week

sorry agian who pays stamp duty

[Pope vader]

do you mean national insurance

[Pope vader]

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/paye/rates-thresholds.htm

http://www.which.co.uk/money/tax/guides/national-insurance-explained/how-much-ni-you-pay/


basically if they earn less than 110 a week they wont pay NI

[Dougaldum]

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/paye/rates-thresholds.htm

http://www.which.co.uk/money/tax/guides/national-insurance-explained/how-much-ni-you-pay/


basically if they earn less than 110 a week they wont pay NI

thankyou very much good to know

[Bushboy]

I used to employ in my retail business a lot of people ,
I put them on 4 hr contracts with agreement they could do set hours per wk
As over time above the 4 paid at time , I then had them working 16hours a week & more ,
But only had to pay hols entitlement for 4 hours they were contracted ,
I also kept them below the ni threshold as I didn't have to pay ni ,

Had no problems with this , as most kept below certain amount for benefits & wanted this any ways ,

Only then obligated for for 4 hrs contracts , They also had flexibility as well ,

 

[Richard iSparkle]

I had this situation a few months back. i sold some work and kept the cream. you have to be careful employing - especially with winter coming up! if you contract somebody and employ them, you will still have to pay a wage if we have another big freeze! 3 weeks last year!

you dont have to pay them.  you can put them on holiday for the period.  also pretty standard to add to their contract that they have to work weekends etc if the business requires it.  so if you cannot work put them on holiday and make them make up the hours on days that are workable.  saying that there was only 1 day we couldnt work last year, but we go out all weathers so long as the equipment will work.

i cant imagine you would keep good lads very long if you dictated their hours in this way!? and come winter, do many people have much holiday left after taking normaly a couple of weeks in the summer!?

and as for not working one day only - excuse tone, i hate written conversations, they can come across argumental when they are in no way intended to be - i only didnt work as waorried about ice forming around paths and access to propertys!? how did you manage this problem?

some people may not be happy having some of their holidays dictated in this way, but as its only a couple of days per year they will just put up with it.  as a small business you just cant afford to pay people not to work.  good employees understand that it goes with the job.

we spray de icer after cleaning when its on a walk way.  didnt get one complaint for this at all and no problems at all.  only one client deferred their clean.  as i said above tho, when you start employing staff, you just cant afford to not work as you loose your profit margins very quickly.  you have to be very sharp on getting your cleans done, and getting everything out of your staff that you need.

[Inside Out]

With like a weed sprayer? Great idea. I thought I would have to have half tonne of rock salt in my van. Thanks for that one!

[davids3511]

I had this situation a few months back. i sold some work and kept the cream. you have to be careful employing - especially with winter coming up! if you contract somebody and employ them, you will still have to pay a wage if we have another big freeze! 3 weeks last year!

you dont have to pay them.  you can put them on holiday for the period.  also pretty standard to add to their contract that they have to work weekends etc if the business requires it.  so if you cannot work put them on holiday and make them make up the hours on days that are workable.  saying that there was only 1 day we couldnt work last year, but we go out all weathers so long as the equipment will work.

i cant imagine you would keep good lads very long if you dictated their hours in this way!? and come winter, do many people have much holiday left after taking normaly a couple of weeks in the summer!?

and as for not working one day only - excuse tone, i hate written conversations, they can come across argumental when they are in no way intended to be - i only didnt work as waorried about ice forming around paths and access to propertys!? how did you manage this problem?

some people may not be happy having some of their holidays dictated in this way, but as its only a couple of days per year they will just put up with it.  as a small business you just cant afford to pay people not to work.  good employees understand that it goes with the job.

we spray de icer after cleaning when its on a walk way.  didnt get one complaint for this at all and no problems at all.  only one client deferred their clean.  as i said above tho, when you start employing staff, you just cant afford to not work as you loose your profit margins very quickly.  you have to be very sharp on getting your cleans done, and getting everything out of your staff that you need.

Do you get the deicer in bulk? If so where do you get it?

[Richard iSparkle]

I had this situation a few months back. i sold some work and kept the cream. you have to be careful employing - especially with winter coming up! if you contract somebody and employ them, you will still have to pay a wage if we have another big freeze! 3 weeks last year!

you dont have to pay them.  you can put them on holiday for the period.  also pretty standard to add to their contract that they have to work weekends etc if the business requires it.  so if you cannot work put them on holiday and make them make up the hours on days that are workable.  saying that there was only 1 day we couldnt work last year, but we go out all weathers so long as the equipment will work.

i cant imagine you would keep good lads very long if you dictated their hours in this way!? and come winter, do many people have much holiday left after taking normaly a couple of weeks in the summer!?

and as for not working one day only - excuse tone, i hate written conversations, they can come across argumental when they are in no way intended to be - i only didnt work as waorried about ice forming around paths and access to propertys!? how did you manage this problem?

some people may not be happy having some of their holidays dictated in this way, but as its only a couple of days per year they will just put up with it.  as a small business you just cant afford to pay people not to work.  good employees understand that it goes with the job.

we spray de icer after cleaning when its on a walk way.  didnt get one complaint for this at all and no problems at all.  only one client deferred their clean.  as i said above tho, when you start employing staff, you just cant afford to not work as you loose your profit margins very quickly.  you have to be very sharp on getting your cleans done, and getting everything out of your staff that you need.

Do you get the deicer in bulk? If so where do you get it?

just B&Q.  dont need to use a lot