[Total shine cleaning services]

I am thinking of taking a mate on to try and expand my business and help him out but have no idea what to pay or how to pay..any advice would be greatly appreciated

[CleartechLee]

when i was first employed i was paid alot less until i was upto a "satisfactory level" took about 2months for that to happen

the next pay rise was when i was up the ladder.

Depends on if you know him or not. Personally pay him £40 when hes up to speed then £60 when up a ladder, thats my guess

[Total shine cleaning services]

Was that on the books or u pay your own tax.?

[Pope vader]

first of he cant go self employed if you tell him where to work, when to work and then provide the gear to do the job,

the two ways he can go self employed is a parntership in your business,  or he gets his own gear, van  and then you sub the work to him and let him do it at his pace

taxman is clamping down on self employed

[Total shine cleaning services]

Just pay a daily rate then,think I'll talk to my accountant but any more advice on rates of pay,holiday pay,p time or full time please

[bobby p]

id say take him on parttime-that way you dont promise full time hours that you cant keep up with

iv 2 parttimers on 16 hours a week max and they work hard as theyre not deadbeat  doing long days . Apply online to HMRC to be a registered employer and they send u a disc to put in ur computer . get employers liability insurance ,u must, its not too pricey for 2 or 3 employees

 best decision i ever made taking on workers-although i went thru a few wasters before finding good lads

[sparkleglass]

just pay him a % of what you earn a day you cant lose then 

[scud]

  I wouldn't employ a mate full stop.

  Keep business and social life as separate as possible, I will not work for friends/family or neighbours (except me ma, and next door neighbour who hasn't got a water meter!)

[sparkleglass]

have you got any mates then..

[Inside Out]

I had this situation a few months back. i sold some work and kept the cream. you have to be careful employing - especially with winter coming up! if you contract somebody and employ them, you will still have to pay a wage if we have another big freeze! 3 weeks last year!

[Dougaldum]

id say take him on parttime-that way you dont promise full time hours that you cant keep up with

iv 2 parttimers on 16 hours a week max and they work hard as theyre not deadbeat  doing long days . Apply online to HMRC to be a registered employer and they send u a disc to put in ur computer . get employers liability insurance ,u must, its not too pricey for 2 or 3 employees

 best decision i ever made taking on workers-although i went thru a few wasters before finding good lads

do you pay their tax or do they pay it 

[bobby p]

they are below the tax limit

[Inside Out]

but youll still hve to give em a wage slip right?

[Pope vader]

yes

[Total shine cleaning services]

Thanks lads

[Dougaldum]

but youll still hve to give em a wage slip right?

what about stamp duty

[AshWhite]

I'm no expert, but I remember some friends being employed on '0' hour contracts, so there was no minimum amount of hours they could work in a week.

[Dougaldum]

they are below the tax limit

sorry about this but how much do you pay to be under tax limit thank;s

[Pope vader]

0 hour contracts,  am sure they tried banning them, will check

these are great for the employer, as they can say have day off no pay,  but a lot of people wont take them,  and if they do  leave when they get a proper job where they are guaranted money, 

if you think you need to employ and want to put them on 0 hour contract,  then you business isnt ready to employ, as if it cant afford to pay some one when the work is quiet  then stay on your own  or get an appretise  only 2.50 ph  proper slave labour

[Richard iSparkle]

I had this situation a few months back. i sold some work and kept the cream. you have to be careful employing - especially with winter coming up! if you contract somebody and employ them, you will still have to pay a wage if we have another big freeze! 3 weeks last year!

you dont have to pay them.  you can put them on holiday for the period.  also pretty standard to add to their contract that they have to work weekends etc if the business requires it.  so if you cannot work put them on holiday and make them make up the hours on days that are workable.  saying that there was only 1 day we couldnt work last year, but we go out all weathers so long as the equipment will work.