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Mark Betts

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cleaning windows with sloping porch roof........
« on: January 21, 2004, 01:28:47 pm »
Have a coupole of houses now to do that have a porch with a tiled sloping roof right under the first floor window.

If i put the ladder up to the wasll oavoiding the sloping roof if u get my gist the angle of the ladder is too low and there is a danger of it slipping.

Try and get to from side but leaning over a bit too much!!

How do u handle these???

thopught about standing on tiled roof!!! sloping but worried about either crackin tile or worse slipping.

Thanks


Mark

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STEVE71163

Re: cleaning windows with sloping porch roof......
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2004, 01:31:48 pm »
Hi Mark
          I either do it from inside or use a pole and failing that i would rather leave it than risk the ladder slipping :o

Steve

Mark Betts

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Re: cleaning windows with sloping porch roof......
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2004, 01:35:17 pm »
Thanks Steve

Its that the woman said "well the other window cleaner done it"

but i cant see how he manage dit ahahha

Ta


Mark
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STEVE71163

Re: cleaning windows with sloping porch roof......
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2004, 01:39:42 pm »
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Thanks Steve

Its that the woman said "well the other window cleaner done it"







They all say that Mark :) Thats why the other window cleaner is not doing it now. He doesnt want to break his neck ::)

Steve

Mikey Warner

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Re: cleaning windows with sloping porch roof......
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2004, 05:40:33 pm »
I have a some houses with i think the same type of obsatcle you are talking about.

If the ground is wet it is a big no no, knock 50p off, but if it is dry i do put my ladder up and put a sand bag at the base. I did have it slip slightly once before, but that was because i did not put the sand bag snugly round the base of the ladder.

Mikey

denzle

Re: cleaning windows with sloping porch roof......
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2004, 06:11:27 pm »
You could use a ladder standoff maybe, that will allow you to place the base of the ladder a little further back whilst still keeping a safe angle.
But stay safe, ain't no piece of dirty glass worth dying for.
Denzle

sham33

Re: cleaning windows with sloping porch roof......
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2004, 07:01:57 pm »
Best bet is pole work, putting things behind ladders or walking on the slope is all dangerous. Mind u i have a few of these myself but the angle is good enough to walk on. The ones that look too dodgy i use the pole on.
Most modern house's use this design now  >:(

Majestic

Re: cleaning windows with sloping porch roof......
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2004, 09:35:40 pm »
Dont bother doing it , just knock 50p off the price as Steve said why is the other window cleaner still not cleaning it , any window that you do not feel happy cleaning ,dont do it .

pdhanson

Re: cleaning windows with sloping porch roof......
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2004, 09:46:08 pm »
I would just leave it.  If the customer moans, let them moan.  They will be ok if you have an accident, but you wont.

Definately, DONT leave your ladder sticking up in the air and climb it unsupported.  You really are asking for trouble to do that.  The higher you go and further you lean, it'll be wanting to slip right away at the bottom.

I wouldnt even trust sandbags in such a situation.

Silly

matt

Re: cleaning windows with sloping porch roof......
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2004, 10:22:10 pm »
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I wouldnt even trust sandbags in such a situation.

Silly


youve never seen my sandbag then  ;D ;D 2 large bags of floor grit into a Canvas tool bag, heavy as hell, my workmate calls it the "body bag"

pdhanson

Re: cleaning windows with sloping porch roof......
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2004, 10:27:28 pm »
The Body Bag, I like that.

If it prevents you going home in one, then its bound to be worthwhile!

Silly

Mikey Warner

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Re: cleaning windows with sloping porch roof......
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2004, 10:45:47 pm »
Basically in the end, it's your own judgement. Some of us cleaners on here will do it (taking the risks into account of course) and some of us cleaners won't. it's all down to what you think.

Mikey ;D

Londoner

Re: cleaning windows with sloping porch roof......
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2004, 12:30:50 pm »
Like denzle says  "there aint no dirty piece of glass worth dying for...."
The problem comes when there are streets and streets of houses all with the same style of porch roof.
The only way I would go up is if I had someone holding the bottom. I take it thats not possible.

I saw a guy cleaning the windows on a block of flats last year. the top storey were roof flats with little windows set in the sloping roof so he couldn't reach them from a ladder. In other words the same effect that you describe.
He just stepped off the ladder and walked up the sloping roof to get to the window. The thing is he was THREE STOREYS UP.
When he was done he strolled down the roof and climbed back onto the ladder.And it was a long whippy auminium ladder totally unsecured at the bottom.

I couldn't bear to watch it, I was literally going hot and cold.
It was the most stupid thing I have ever seen.

Re: cleaning windows with sloping porch roof......
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2004, 04:00:29 am »
I clean windows with my missis and her nick-name is "sand-bag" because she stands on my ladders when I'm frightened.

However, try putting your ladders above the window and cleaning them.  It may sound obvious, but it wasn't to me who scaled porches like I was Spiderman.

Then when I got more sensible, I found alot of these windows could be reached safely by extending the ladders further above the window, rather than resting them at an acute angle on the window sill.

I'm a Geordie - that should explain a lot!

Tosh

Re: cleaning windows with sloping porch roof......
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2004, 04:05:38 am »
PS - Silly Philly has the right idea.  Let the customer moan.  I wouldn't trust sandbags.  I don't even trust my missis, who once yelled "you're slipping, I can't stop you!"

She'd only been holding my ladder on certain windows for about ten months, and when push came to shove, she wasn't doing it right!

She stood on the ladders with BOTH feet.  She is WELSH mind you!