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MJHolmes

New Laws Coming Soon!!!!!!!
« on: October 09, 2011, 03:46:31 pm »
Hi All,

I was just reading about the window cleaner that put something about taxes that some dont pay taxes ectr.... on the other topic. As From April next year there is a scheme that the goverment is introducing that all small enterprises no matter what you do, how much you earn you have to submit a balance sheet with all customers on your books every 3 months and tax will be taken from you which you will recieve back at the end of the tax year. This is to stop the tax dodgers.

Just another note to add as from next January it is going to be issued that anyone without Public Liabilty Insurance will be fined, to me this is great i have a cleaning business and have all insurance to cover my sections. but for those that have not then watch out!!!! You will also have to produce it to all your customers no matter what you do, again this will flush out the dodgy ones.

As From prices for customers they will pay what they want to pay for Cleaning Services. Its like this pay £3 for a top from primark, then the quality is gonna be poopy in most cases, but by a top from next and the quality is better. But let me say that there is some good window cleaners that charge a small price for there services but thats life. THE CUSTOMER WILL DECIDE.

I think anyone starting a bussiness should do it right and pay what they should be paying.

cozy

Re: New Laws Coming Soon!!!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2011, 03:53:56 pm »
Good thread, though the problem with "Dodgey" guys cleaning windows having to provide a list of their custies etc will be hard to police. How will the government do that? They have enough problems finding people who shouldn't be in UK in the first place, how are they going to find every window cleaner and see if he's handed in his custy list?

Sounds like more empty crap promises from Dave the game show host to me. Would be nice if they follow through, but I bet it fades away like all the other governments "great new ideas"  :(

MJHolmes

Re: New Laws Coming Soon!!!!!!!
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2011, 03:59:56 pm »
Hi Cozy,

The document will indicate that the window cleaner will need to get signitures from the customer to say that they have seen the public liability insurance cert, of which the window cleaner has to keep the copy. in case of any insurance claims.

MJHolmes

Re: New Laws Coming Soon!!!!!!!
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2011, 04:02:15 pm »
It will have to be handed to the insurance company that you deal with.

stuart mc

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Re: New Laws Coming Soon!!!!!!!
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2011, 04:04:42 pm »
where exactly did you read this, do you have a link.

cozy

Re: New Laws Coming Soon!!!!!!!
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2011, 04:06:11 pm »
Yes mate. I can just imagine a custy at the door when the knock.

Windy.........Hello Mrs Smith, would you sign my government document so I can prove you are a custy and you've seen my PI and I'm legit etc etc blah blah


Mrs Smith,....... I'm not signing anything, I just want my windows cleaned ..............

I bet most custies can't wait to sign bits of paper waved at them by their window cleaner. The tax dodging windies wont ask any custies and just keep going, because their wont be thousands of window cleaning police driving around ignoring crime, whilst looking for windies to see if they got their custies to sign Dave's Docket.

Looks like a non starter mate. I hope it works for you guys, but don't hold your breath........


MJHolmes

Re: New Laws Coming Soon!!!!!!!
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2011, 04:09:32 pm »
Cosy

Just trying to help mate thats all....... you will do what best for you and hope you are cover if a claim comes your way.

windiewasher

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Re: New Laws Coming Soon!!!!!!!
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2011, 04:10:18 pm »
Lol what a load of garbage.
Takings off all first cleans till march 7th 2014
October  total=  cleaned  extra per month
November = cleaned extra per month
Total £  so far.

cozy

Re: New Laws Coming Soon!!!!!!!
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2011, 04:11:44 pm »
No, you mis-understand me mate, I hope it does work for you. I think these government ideas are always flawed and come to nothing. I really hope it happens but I don't believe it ill. I know you're trying to help, that's why I said at the start, "Good thread". ;)

MJHolmes

Re: New Laws Coming Soon!!!!!!!
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2011, 04:13:40 pm »
Cosy

I could agree with you about the laws and gov. but dosnt harm to cover your back tho mate.

stuart mc

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Re: New Laws Coming Soon!!!!!!!
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2011, 04:14:40 pm »
so where did you read this then?

cozy

Re: New Laws Coming Soon!!!!!!!
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2011, 04:16:05 pm »
You're preaching to the converted mate. I have no choice here. Everyone is central registered so you can't avoid paying tax or not being insured. It's a bit like George Owells 1984 here in "Ze Fatherland"  ;D ;D

MJHolmes

Re: New Laws Coming Soon!!!!!!!
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2011, 04:19:41 pm »
Im no preacher just a safe practice, i dont care what other people do and what they get upto., but just wanted to put may status on here about what is going to happen.

cozy

Re: New Laws Coming Soon!!!!!!!
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2011, 04:23:17 pm »
So anyway, where did you read this?

Dick

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Re: New Laws Coming Soon!!!!!!!
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2011, 04:33:07 pm »
He doesn't want to tell you.

stuart mc

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Re: New Laws Coming Soon!!!!!!!
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2011, 04:34:12 pm »
He doesn't want to tell you.

seems like it.

I think I will wait until HMRC tell me

colin purewater

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Re: New Laws Coming Soon!!!!!!!
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2011, 04:50:09 pm »
bull poop
keep it simple

Pope vader

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Re: New Laws Coming Soon!!!!!!!
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2011, 04:53:35 pm »
how r they going to know i am working,  if i dont pay tax now or any thing,

sf

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Re: New Laws Coming Soon!!!!!!!
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2011, 04:54:27 pm »
Wont stop the beer money brigade. (1) they wont be registered with hmrc. (2) they wont have documents for customer to sign as without being registered with hmrc they wont be chased up.The goverment are cutting back on staff same as everyone else. Nice idea in theory,in practice will never work.

cozy

Re: New Laws Coming Soon!!!!!!!
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2011, 04:58:52 pm »
The other thing is, how will a custie no that the paperwork being shown by the Windy is genuine and upto date? This means custies are now government sponsored insurance verification officers and can verify documents for the government.

Clean It All, where did you read this??