Ill put my hands up and say I owe £1500 at the moment to 3 separate regular posters on here for jobs , I get paid sometimes a year after a job is complete , as my customer is in a chain up to 5 people deep , I am not making off the jobs ,it is the nature of the business . I have 21k outstanding from 2008 which I will never see , sometimes this happens , but on balance we all have winners and losers . No point crying about it , I never supply services that I cannot afford to not get paid for.